http://www .gre.ac.uk/~cc217/images/autism.jpg
broken link. This poster was made for them before NAAR joined with Autism Speaks.
Imagine being newly diagnosed as child and seeing that as an advert for a helpline. :evil:
I have a contact email for the graphic artist who made it. I am going to mail them and ask if they could give me information such as what type of thing were they asked to design and whether this poster was used, and if so where was it used.
It reminds me of playground bullies, though it is designed to evoke sympathy.
That poster deserves a bit of grafitti:
"And he likes it that way!"
I'm unlikely to see any of these posters around. If I were, I'd buy a white pen.
how about approaching the course director at Greenwich University, and inviting them to set a project for their students to come up with images from our perspective? And maybe the students could do some research by checking out this site, maybe set up a dedicated Q&A thread for them?
Excellent idea! :grin:
Better yet, how about approaching directors of similar courses at a large number of universities? There are many Aspies in academia, and many things that can be done to promote our views.
That poster is offensive I totally agree with you guys. I can see what it's trying to say but surely there are better ways of offering support?
Someone said it was little better then playground bullying and I whole heartedly agree.
Yours in randomness!
RG
Awww that is so good Abscout!
When they make posters like that they don't care about the consequences for aspie school kids.
Your poster is good too. Maybe we can use it somewhere. :smile:
Hitler was insane, not normal.
And a number of his high-ups (like Mengle) were probably sociopaths, also not NT.
They were considered normal at the time, and held in high esteem.
Before Hitler, people were attacking Jews of their own volition, more and more as time went on. All Hitler did was organize them.
Yeah I remember reading in, I think it was the book Escape from Sobibor, how some Polish Jews were happy at the Nazi invasion because thought that the "civilized" Hitler would rescue them from their Polish "neighbors" who had been attacking them as long as they could remember. That stayed in my mind as one of the more ironic misconceptions in the whole Shoa (Holocaust).
Sorry, just seems to me like in order to eliminate the Aspie genes, you're going to get rid of genes for Aspie traits, like intelligence, creativity, freewill, and logic in the process.
And I shudder to picture that.
Fortunately, it'll never work, precisely because there will be people who want to keep those traits in the gene pool.
Those traits are not only found in AS but are also found in NTs and everone inbetween.
up to a certain age you are likely to have a very "normal" social child. Talking, interacting, developing in all ways as you would expect. And then it changes. Some parents see what appears to be total reversal in development; for others time seems to freeze. Your child may still be who he was always meant to be, but to your eyes he has changed from who he used to be, and not in a way you ever expected. Everything you thought you knew about your child is lost. That is so very difficult to deal with as a parent.
I recommend reading this article on the Ballastexistenz blog, which discusses the fact that autistic children are still learning and developing even when they may seem to regress:
http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=59
When my son was two years old, he could write a few words and seemed interested in learning to read. Then he apparently lost interest and seemed nervous and overwhelmed by the whole idea. Eventually he started reading and writing with his class in first grade.
I never saw that as a "regression" or anything like that. I just thought he had enough going on in his busy little life so that he didn't feel quite ready to tackle the big job of learning to read yet, once he realized how much effort was involved!
Wish there was some way to know what a toddler is experiencing, since the phenominon is most often commented on with respect to something in the toddler years.
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You know that trend of teaching ("normal") kids to sign, as babies, so they can communicate before they can talk?
I am sure this has been tried with autistic kids, too, as sign is sometimes used with non-speaking autistics.
Does anyone know any study about whether sign is often useful with little autistic kids? I wonder, because while sign is different from speech, it is still a language... and I wonder if kids who have a difficulty with communicating by spoken language usually have the same difficulty with producing sign language? I need to ask my mother the deaf-ed. teacher if sign uses a different mental process than speech.
Like, has anyone read a study about communication boards vs. sign for autistic toddlers? I think that would be so interesting, and useful. Because nearly everyone wants to communicate stuff, and like DW says, that could be a big part of the frustration that a kid feels.
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I know someone who was ... not exactly nonverbal, but ... he didn't talk for a while, like, he could talk but he couldn't make words express his ideas... so he ended up not saying much at all, for years. Then he decided to study literature so he would learn to do that. And he tells how it was really frustrating for him, even as a young adult...
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The problem with sign, I think, is getting the AS children to see that it is a language. The AS children in my class don't look at faces or hand motions usually - they are too busy focusing on whatever it is they are doing to the exclusion of everything else. Plus, I may be wrong here as I don't do sign language, but doesn't some of it at least depend on the expression on the face? Perhaps somebody with experience in sign can correct me on this.
Alison
Oh, that makes sense. I remember vaguely one woman that my mother worked with (this was more than 10 yrs ago) was having a hard time connecting sign to communication, also. So i guess it's a similar problem to voiced language. Except if a person had an auditory processing problem, that would be different.
Well, the artistic version of sign, like the poetry/drama/literature of that language, depends way more on face expressions, but yeah, it's a big aspect of sign.
However, deaf-blind signers just read the hands; they don't need to touch the face to read the meanings in the signs. Which indicates to me that the face is "decoration", to add style and inflection and some meaning, but the words part of the meaning is conveyed by the actual signs. I'm thinking of the sign "sick"
( http://commtechlab.msu.edu/SITES/ASLWEB/S/W3627.htm )
and remembering that if you are sick in your stomach you sign the sign there, instead of in your head... and make a more painful face if you are more sick. Things like that.
(dictionary link for the curious: http://commtechlab.msu.edu/SITES/ASLWEB/browser.htm )
I remember making somethign spoofing this and sucking the pee out of it a long time ago.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=naardo8.swf
It's supposed to be typed out in baby talk. Ignore the phone number at the end, and the awful drawing. If the poster linked to is the one that shows a kid in the ocrner with "He's all alone. He has no friends. This is because of AUTISM." or sometihng like that on it, then I made this thingy ta ridicule it quite the while back.