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According to this author sensitivity toward touch leads people to become nazis or something. Everything she has to say in this interview is nonsense. Proof positive that anyone can get a Ph.d in the US, even from a "top twenty" university like Vanderbilt.


An Examined Life: Linda Holler of Religious Studies
By Jenni Winfrey



Linda Holler makes a living thinking about things.

Chair of Religious Studies at SDSU, she describes her profession that way, laughing at the memory of her early days in college when “I realized that I had never had a thought in my whole life. I regurgitated information well, but I didn’t think.”

The joy of thinking led Holler to pursue a master’s degree in theology and a Ph.D. in religious ethics from Vanderbilt University in Nashville after graduating from Chico State University with a degree in philosophy and religion.

Lately, Holler has been thinking about the role of touch in our moral agency. The accounts of two autistic women for whom touch was painful inspired her to explore the extent to which the senses, particularly the tactile sense, inform self-awareness, world awareness and emotional feeling.

In Erotic Morality: The Role of Touch in Moral Agency, Holler examines how physical touch, and the way we learn and experience touch, helps to determine our repulsions, attractions and indifferences, our emotional response to our surroundings and our ability to “care passionately and compassionately about our own lives and the lives of others.”

To support her theory that touch should be considered the center of moral life, Holler looked at two autistic women who avoided touch, and found in them a corresponding inability to feel empathy or connection with people.  She also found corroboration in accounts from 20th century history: Adolf Hitler reportedly disassociated physical pain and emotion and learned to connect physical pain with weakness; Adolf Eichmann, a leading Nazi officer was “so alienated from his own body, so incapable of feeling his body’s needs that he ate the same meal every day,” Holler’s research revealed.

In essence Holler explored “the connection between feeling comfortable with our bodies and our capacity for empathy, and how we can use awareness of our pain and suffering to engender compassion in ourselves." She said she was drawn to the stories of these two women “because they spoke to me of my own sensory and emotional life.”

Holler believes that everyday pressures and enticements like stress, material consumption and television viewing disconnect people from the world. People anesthetize themselves with these things instead of participating in activities that touch the self like gardening or playing music.

“Part of the idea in this book is to escape anesthetizations so that we can come to our senses and feel again,” said Holler.  She pursues these ideals in her own life by practicing vipassana, an ancient meditation technique, and spending time in the desert, which she imagines as a big Zen garden.

However, Holler does not specialize in Buddhism or in any particular religion. “I used to see religion as a set of propositions that you either choose to believe or not believe,” she said. “But that perception was an artificial relic of secularism; religion is really about the ability to connect. Some people call that spirituality instead of religion because they are frustrated with institutionalized religion. But religion is always about the experience. Religion would never have existed for thousands of years if people had seen it only as a set of propositions.”

Holler believes that the public education system is doing students a disservice by banning religious discussion in the classroom. “The result of not talking about religion in our schools for nearly two decades is that Americans don’t think critically about religion,” she contends.

In the SDSU religious studies department, she says, “we teach students to think about religion from a variety of perspectives, and to examine their own religious lives.”

Holler teaches World Religions, Religion and the Sciences, Religious Violence and Nonviolence, and Nature, Spirituality and Ecology.

http://www.sdsuniverse.  info/people_content.asp?id=5788
Perhaps the best way to deal with this kind of pseudo-scientific nonsense is to ignore it, which it certainly deserves.

Hitler must have received more retrospective diagnoses than any other figure in History - an effort which began in propaganda needs of the World War and has gone on ever since -  and people are so used to it that it is no longer taken seriously.

Autism is quite the fashionable condition of the moment, so understandably there is the usual effort to sell books hinged on dubious retrospective diagnoses of historical figures.  In ten years time, the same Dead People will be diagnosed afresh with whatever the new fashionable disorder happens to be.
By her logic, Hitler being vegetarian could account for his actions, or wearing lederhosen. :roll:

She is coupling two traits of autism such as less interest in people and sensitivity to touch (as these woman showed) and making a huge jump to other people having one aspect of that.

This is part of the reason why I dont like the 'everyone is a bit autistic' idea, and people who like to separate traits of autism and apply them elsewhere.
I'm sure the lederhosen explain everything  :smile:

I'm not good at formal logic, but I suspect that the proposition

"Everyone is a bit autistic" is a tautology.

Autism has been devised as as a pathology by NTs to define a certain type of behavioural deviation from their notion of normalcy.  If everyone has this deviation, then it becomes the norm, and the category "autism" ceases to have any distinct meaning.

I think that's what I mean to say  :smile:
Tautologoy is an interesting word. Another unusual word is Tort, which is an aspect of law that regards action of one person that harms another.

Then there is torte, which is a delicious word. :smile:
There's a sort of French patisserie in Brighton which sells wonderful tortes and so on, but it's so fearsomely expensive that I daren't ever go in. :roll:
Wow, she used *two* autistic women as her subjects!  With such a HUGE sample, who can doubt the results? :roll:
As to sensitivity to touch, I like hugs, but have to cut all the labels off mine and Lauren's clothes: scratchy!
Alison
Premise 1:  Person A does not like to be touched
Premise 2:  Person A is not empathetic
Conclusion:  Therefore, not liking touch causes lack of empathy.

Hmmmm....this argument would not have made the grade in my logic class.
another theory that says we are less than human.  i guess some people belive there should be a critera for who can be considered to be true human and non human.  just becuase you don't want to be touched does not mean you can't feel.  they probaly wanted their personal space and touching people was probaly uncomtable for them.

i'm really sick and tired of these people trying to change our personailty so that we can be "more human" in their eyes, we are all human beings, autstic or not.

energeia Wrote:
Premise 1:  Person A does not like to be touched
Premise 2:  Person A is not empathetic
Conclusion:  Therefore, not liking touch causes lack of empathy.

Hmmmm....this argument would not have made the grade in my logic class.



No probably not. But if you had enough money to pay your way into some US graduate school with a low enough admission g.p.a  you'd do just fine with such an argument.  Here in Canada there's no grad school exists that would allow admission with anything less than top marks due to competition for seats. My point is that these US diploma mills are churning out "scholars" who are SCARY in terms of the damage they can inflict from privileged positions in academia and other places of power.

Vanderbilt is not a diploma mill.  It's likely that this woman's position has a lot more content and argument to it than what is represented in the article.

anandamide Wrote:

energeia Wrote:
Premise 1:  Person A does not like to be touched
Premise 2:  Person A is not empathetic
Conclusion:  Therefore, not liking touch causes lack of empathy.

Hmmmm....this argument would not have made the grade in my logic class.



No probably not. But if you had enough money to pay your way into some US graduate school with a low enough admission g.p.a  you'd do just fine with such an argument.  Here in Canada there's no grad school exists that would allow admission with anything less than top marks due to competition for seats. My point is that these US diploma mills are churning out "scholars" who are SCARY in terms of the damage they can inflict from privileged positions in academia and other places of power.



Oh, how right you are.  There are people with 2.0s at USC, Harvard, you name it.  They cannot spell, they cannot add, and they cannot recognize empathy, logic, or fallacy.  But because they are NT and get along well with others, they have the benefit of many opportunities (yeah, I'm bitter ).  :?

i thought school was about knowlege, not socalizing.

bravesj858 Wrote:
i thought school was about knowlege, not socalizing.


Unfortunately not.  Everything in the NT world seems to be about socializing.  

Even in my work, I'm constantly being told by my room leader to "include" my Aspie and Autie kids ( I had two last year, and have one this year) in the team games and things...whether they want to join in or not.  And usually they don't want to.  I always think if they're happy doing their own thing, let them be, but my NT room leader says they can't possibly "be happy" unless they're forced to play ball, tag, or whatever with the others.  

I'm currently working on my advanced qualifications and majoring in Autistic/special needs kids.  Once I get those quals in my hot little hand, I can then tell the room leader to go take a hike if I disagree with his decisions.

Alison

I'm thinking that nowadays at college/university grad schools it's not what you know, it's a lot of who you know.  AND how much money you can make for your "dear old Alma Mater", now and in future years.

It's probably been that way for a long time, but, it just seems more obvious now.

The leap from "touch hyper-sensitivity to naziism" is just boggling my mind. :roll:

Peace
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