What is wrong with people seeing other people's underwear? Why do people make a fuss when people can see their underwear? Why do they go to such lengths to hide it?
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Or, in the case of Blackpool girls under the age of 25, why go to all that length to get people to see it (at least, that's the only reason I can think of for wearing a skirt that is about two inches long)?
What is wrong with people seeing other people's underwear? Why do people make a fuss when people can see their underwear? Why do they go to such lengths to hide it?
Perhaps because it is underwear? I.e. the purpose is to wear it under other things. 
I don't see the problem with the top of knickers showing though, or bra straps. But as the previous poster said, what *is* it with those kids who seem to be riding their knickers so far up their backside (just to show off?) that it looks like they will get cut in half?
I think there is rarely a fuss now compared with the victorian era when 'a glimpse of stocking was something shocking'. :wink:
I think there is rarely a fuss now compared with the victorian era when 'a glimpse of stocking was something shocking'. :wink:
Right on! I think people (especially women) wearing underwear (also depending on what kind, I'm personally NOT a porn-like thong fan) can be really beautiful. Also depends on the way they're photographed. It doesn't have to be a Playboy-like photo, but I don't think people should be ashamed of showing the beauty of their body, INCLUDING their imperfections. A little mold here or there doen't make you ugly. I think it actually makes someone really cute.
Back to the question...
I think the people who does not want to their underwear to be seen by anybody else have the opinion that it is private. I would not want to have everybody known the thinks I estimate as private, either.
What someone think is private or not, is his own opinion and should be respected.
It's also a kind of fashion if underwear might be shown or not. In the last years, a lot of young folks have trousers that show a lot of their butt and their underwear and a lot of those teenagers and twens don't look to me very beautiful with that clothes. But that is my opinion and if they think they look fine I don't bother, I still can look away.
Sibylle
A little mold here or there doen't make you ugly. I think it actually makes someone really cute.
Like the fuzzy green stuff you get on old cheese? :lol:
Alison
Maybe you should look up some sites on "modesty". There is some interesting information about what other people think about it.
As a modest Christian woman I try to dress in a way that covers my body, and underwear. The reason I try to look modest, and even act modest, is to draw attention away from myself. Prostitutes may dress in particular styles to advertise their profession. They want people to think of sex when they see them because that is what they are selling. Nuns dress in a long full habit for their profession. Nuns are not advertising sex because they are not selling it and hopefully people looking at them will not be thinking of sex except for a few sick people.
People wear clothing for several reasons: protection from the weather, for modesty and status. In places where people have little privacy, they can at least have modesty as some form of anonymity. I believe that privacy is important to people with AS. So I will strive to be modest when in public as a form of protection for myself.
As for thongs and low rise pants - they are in fashion, so people wear them whether we are interested in viewing their butts or not. If granny pants and knee length pantaloons were in style, they would be wearing that.
M, you are very intelligent, that was a great answer and I admire your decision and ability to fit in with everyone.
Not showing underwear is a custom. People who have a less internally defined personality rely on their culture for their ethics, morality and taboos. As M explained, modesty is a way of demonstrating one's willingness to fit in with the norms of the culture and a signal to others to direct their attention elsewhere. In the same way, breaking taboos is a signal to others that you make up your own mind about morality or that you act on impulse without regard to morality.
So someone who is unconcerned about showing underwear - and also perhaps nudity, wearing butterfly wings to quantum physics lectures (well I haven't but I'd like to), or singing and dancing down the footpath may have other abberant beliefs or a simple problem with impulse control - in either case they represent a possible danger to the individual or the society.
So if you decide that today is superman day and you'll wear your underwear on the outside, understand that nobody who crosses the street is afraid of your underwear. They're afraid of what other surprises you may have in store for them.
"M, you are very intelligent, that was a great answer and I admire your decision and ability to fit in with everyone.
Not showing underwear is a custom. People who have a less internally defined personality rely on their culture for their ethics, morality and taboos. As M explained, modesty is a way of demonstrating one's willingness to fit in with the norms of the culture and a signal to others to direct their attention elsewhere."
No, I do not really fit in with everyone. I get called "Prairie muffin" and "Amish" because I wear old-fashioned clothing. A woman and her teenage daughter once made fun of me at Walmart - asking me if I lived on a farm. Did anyone smell goat? etc. I asked them why would anyone care about how I looked and they said that they did not want to look at me. I then just told me that my religion required me to dress that way and they stopped because they wanted to appear "politically correct."
If someone would like to dress according to their cultre for ethics, morality and taboos, it does not always mean they will fit in. Just look at how some Muslim and Indian women are treated in Western culture for dressing in Arab clothing or for wearing saris. I really do not understand what you are talking about.
Walking around outside your home wearing only your underwear or nightclothes will get anyone into trouble. In countries you could be thrown in jail for that. In most western cultures, wearing underwear or nightclothes in public would be considered what "crazy people do" because they are unaware of their surroundings or boundaries of the private and public spheres. Someone deliberately wearing underwear or nightclothing in public as a FASHION STATEMENT is different. It is meant to shock. It follows a artistic movement like the artist who displayed an upside down urinal as a sculpture. The problem with all the young people wearing their underwear hanging out is that is just is all too common to be shocking and it is just disgusting particularly when they are too unattractive to be sexy about it. They are following the fashion trend to fit in. Some people just find my ultra modest fashions just too much, too shocking and some have commented that "they do not like the statement I am trying to make", particularly about my Christian headcovering. Actually, I could care less about what other people think about my morality. I only care mostly about what God thinks about my morality.
Do you have any other comments or questions? I find it very difficult to wear what is conforming or even sometimes to know what it is or even like it.
A woman and her teenage daughter once made fun of me at Walmart - asking me if I lived on a farm. Did anyone smell goat? etc. I asked them why would anyone care about how I looked and they said that they did not want to look at me. I then just told me that my religion required me to dress that way and they stopped because they wanted to appear "politically correct."
M, I agree with you one hundred percent. Why do NTs always feel the need to comment on another's appearance, actions, way of talking, etc? It's none of their business, yet it seems they have some undeniable urge to have an impact, whether it's good or bad doesn't seem to matter.
They all seem to want to fit in and be the same as the mainstream while at the same time claiming to be unique and individual. I feel the real individuals are those of us, like you, who do what suits us personally. So long as nobody is hurt, what's the problem? But it's like "how dare you act/dress/speak like that?" I think "how can they stand to be such conformist little robots?"
Alison
Fitting in used to really bother me in high school. We had a uniform, so most of the time, it didn't really matter what you wore at least, but of course these little fads swept through the school, like wearing really long socks, having the shoe buckle done a certain way, particular hair ribbons, etc. It was so hard to keep up and if you didn't there would be rude comments, and they hurt.
Conforming is difficult, because no matter what you do, you can always come under the attack of a rude woman who is troubled enough to act out her frustrations against you in front of her own daughter. For official or formal parties, I always dress in a well-fitted "suit" (suit pants with a nice fitted top or skirt suit) or dark dress and put on just enough make-up to make it look like I'm wearing make-up and I put my hair out of the way or blowdried flat. On the street or casual, I either make a game of figuring out what everyone will wear and copying - but with my own flair - or just wear one of my flamboyant "artist" costumes as an exercise in beauty and wearable art.
M, I'm sorry people pick on you for doing what you think is right - I get the same thing for practicing Buddhism. It's not immediately apparent that I'm a Buddhist, but my dietary practices soon make it clear, and I'm pretty quickly harrassed about my decisions.
I have noticed it is a common human trait to jump to conclusions about people and make judgements and take actions based on these initial mistakes. It's most common among the uneducated who cling to their own norms becaues they're not prepared for new ideas. It's a pity these people aren't willing to at least ask questions.
I do some minimal amount of effort to fit in with clothing. I will ask what the dress code is at a work place before starting. I will then look around to see what others are wearing. I will also ask someone what to wear to a wedding since some cultures have taboos about wearing certain colours.
I actually will never understand fashion in underwear. Sometimes I would get make fun of because I did not wear the really expensive underwear some other girls did. I just think it is stupid to buy designer underwear when plain underwear is more comfortable. I do not understand the thong underwear thing.
Back in my highschool people asked why i didn't buy brand trousers, i just told them i feel more comfortable in a pants that doesn't cost more than my tuition fee, and doesn't rip whenever i sit down.
Granted, i do tend to fit in at times, but i don't try really hard, it's what i basically learned from Highschool, i was kind of scruffy, but still fit in with the rich majority because i didn't care.