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The parents were scared of their own son just because he was an aspie, and they had heard about William Freund???? :?
Why on earth did they want to scan his brain?
Have been looking at the Dr.Shill err Phil website and its making me angry, which doesnt happen often.
Reading the comments on the message board at drphil.com many people are treating fits of rage as the central trait of AS and talking about medication - what medication exactly to "treat" AS alone is unclear.
"Sadly, I would have to say from experience that a person with Asperger's, in my opinion, is in no way marriage material. How sad that this malady has been recongnized and addressed in England and Australia for decades more than it was ever brought to the forefront in America."

Well there are lots of us who are married, so we are good material for someone! I dont know why she thinks that AS has been around for decades more in europe.
GGGRRRRRRRRRR!  "Dr".  Phil is a quack, pure and simple, his show is Jerry Springer, with a pompous, arrogant, self absorbed pseudo intellectual seriousness.  He is pop culture flavor of the month, he's the "O'Reilly factor"  of  pop psychology.  I bet that "mother" also is one of the poster's at that anti-aspie forum on Delphi.  My sympathies to that poor kid for having such a monster mom.

Seriously, anybody who lives their life according to what that quack advises deserves what they get.  And my deepest sympathies to the victims of such ignorant people!

Peace
Does someone who watched the show want to write a letter and post it here, and if it gets the message across, they can send it as an official letter on behalf of AFF?
I cannot write one myself in fairness as I have not actually seen the show, only the website comments and comments here.
"Aware that he is being filmed in his bedroom, Alex approaches the camera and looks squarely into the lens. In an eerily stern voice, he says, "I don't need any of your dumba** help."

That says it all. That should be a message straight to Dr.Phil.
I can't help, but have a nagging feeling in the back of my head, that the whole thing is "staged".  By "dr" Phil as a ratings ploy.  Now I haven't seen the show and only read the transcript posted before.  The man has questionable credentials as a "Dr."  So I can't help but feel that it would be so easy to get the right actors and the right setup and a script full of stereotyped cliches and film it.  Presenting it to a gullible audience of Dr. Phil believers.  That part where the boy looks at the camera and spouts off with anger and a touch of megalomania just sounds way too dramatic for me.  The lines between "News" and "Entertainment" are blurring more and more.  Could this be just another example of the twisting of the facts for profit, fame and glory??  Why let the truth get in the way?

Anyway, thats my tuppence worth of opinion.  Doesn't make me any less angry at that charlatan!  Sort of makes me wonder what will happen to him when his "15 minutes" of fame run out!

Peace :?:
One thing I have often noticed, the very high incidence of caps use on NT parent forms. Its quite baffling.
Did they think to mention that on the show at all?!

I wonder if they did some unscrupulous editing to make it all seem more dramatic.

Amy Wrote:
Did they think to mention that on the show at all?!

I wonder if they did some unscrupulous editing to make it all seem more dramatic.


I have no doubts on that!! :?

Peace

Lienda Balla

I think this might be a rerun of the one I saw last year. Unless it was a different one. Teen aged boy with brown hair, and two parents that didn't understand would be the one I saw likely. I wasn't happy with how it made AS out to be some emotional thing. The show displayed on TV only alowed a tiny hint that it wasn't a mood dissorder. Yet, the whole epesode made it look like that. The father and mother shouted at the boy, and indeed provoked him into self defenses.

Totaly a wrong thing to do in my book! It didn't show any scenes where he even tried to ask the parents if their shouting and degrading words hurt his feelings or provoked him. What they said supposedly effected him, hurt his feelings, and drove him crazy. Crazy to the point that he was crying out and trying with his hardest effort to shout back and proove he wasn't stupid to his parents who didn't seem to listen. The parents were makeing him question his own worth!

The father even shouted in a displayed video "You can't understand your mother's feelings! You can't do anything!". (cold) As far as my personal experiance is concerned, that is verbal abuse! I think that does diserve some reply, as all the blame was placed on AS and the parent figures weren't shown to have been held accountable for verbaly abusive actions.

Lienda Balla

Pakrat Wrote:
Lienda Balla, I so agree with your assessment of what was happening in this family. The parents seemed to be constantly provoking their son into outbursts and then getting all upset and saying how hard a life they were having with him.

If they'd not tried to be so controlling of him, I think he would have settled down quite a lot. To Phil's credit, he put in some footage of the boy explaining how he felt about life as an Aspie.


Thanks. TongueBig Grin (please let me take back anything negative I said to you) It reminded me of the extreme verbal fights I often didn't ask for or diserve as a teen myself, and at that same age even. Even if it was fake, that sort of thing happens everyday in house holds, sadly.

Pakrat Wrote:
As a child, I was taught that marriage was necessary if you wanted to be with a man and have children.

Now I'm older, I'm not so sure this is always the best.

I've seen a number of marriages between people who lived together for years crumble within a very short time. Marriage changes things and not always for the best. All sorts of societal expectations kick in.

Even just organising the ceremony and reception and negotiating all the differing wishes of the various parents and rellies and affording everything, puts a big stress on the couple.

Going into marriage with a big debt hanging over your head is a bad thing and puts a lot of strain on the relationship.

I'm not saying people should give up their principles but just to be careful not to see marriage as a panacea for all ills, especially loneliness. I wish I had more sense before going into a marriage for all the wrong reasons.


Getting into debt for anything unless it's an emergency is a bad idea. There is no need to have a massive reception costing thousands just to get married - me and Amy didn't do this and even if I was still talking to my parents (i'm not, as they were against our relationship to begin with), if their wishes involved getting into debt they could get lost.

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