01-17-2006, 08:09 PM
01-17-2006, 09:07 PM
Ah doctor Phil theres a psychologist who will never be taken seriously on this side of the atlantic
01-18-2006, 02:29 AM
I didn't watch that show because I don't like Dr Phil. Most people I know also can't stand him.
01-18-2006, 05:09 PM
People treat him like his advice is the be all definite expert advice possible, it's sickening. I watched the show... yes WP did get some more views from the fact that it was used to display an extreme example of behavior which I believe likely will do more harm than fully good for people's image of Aspies. Of course Alex does take advantage of it for sure, that he got talked about as a responsible web site owner and such. Bad enough today Susanne Wright (Bob Wright of Autism Speaks's wife) was on The View and further put out there the negativities of autism and I didn't really hear once her say anything positive about her grandson as an individual.
A mother of an AS son that posted on the discussion topic from Dr. Phil's show yesterday wrote this poem:
A mother of an AS son that posted on the discussion topic from Dr. Phil's show yesterday wrote this poem:
Quote:
MY CHILD LIKE THIS
By Carrie Fleming
Dear God, Why did you give me a child like this?
Why not a child who could give perfect bliss?
He’s so sad, scared ,and confused.
If you think it’s funny, I’m not amused.
I love him but I don’t understand you see,
Why you would give this child to me.
He feels too much and sometimes too little
Why can’t he just find a place in the middle?
He hurts so bad, I want to ease his pain,
But sometimes my efforts are in vain.
No one else seems to understand
The hurt that fills my little man.
His big blue eyes filled up with tears
Will stay in my mind for the rest of my years.
"Why are they mean to him?" he overheard me once say.
"Don’t worry mommy, I scared them away."
He needs me so, and now I see.
That is why you gave this child to me.
He kisses me each morning and then each night
Oh my dear Jesus, he’s a beautiful sight.
I reflect on this child as the lights go dim,
Then I realize how much I need him.
Our life is surely far from bliss,
But thank you dear God for my child like this.
By Carrie Fleming
Dear God, Why did you give me a child like this?
Why not a child who could give perfect bliss?
He’s so sad, scared ,and confused.
If you think it’s funny, I’m not amused.
I love him but I don’t understand you see,
Why you would give this child to me.
He feels too much and sometimes too little
Why can’t he just find a place in the middle?
He hurts so bad, I want to ease his pain,
But sometimes my efforts are in vain.
No one else seems to understand
The hurt that fills my little man.
His big blue eyes filled up with tears
Will stay in my mind for the rest of my years.
"Why are they mean to him?" he overheard me once say.
"Don’t worry mommy, I scared them away."
He needs me so, and now I see.
That is why you gave this child to me.
He kisses me each morning and then each night
Oh my dear Jesus, he’s a beautiful sight.
I reflect on this child as the lights go dim,
Then I realize how much I need him.
Our life is surely far from bliss,
But thank you dear God for my child like this.
01-18-2006, 05:37 PM
Another wonderfully (ignorant) poster chimed in on that thread:
Quote:
Adults with Asperger's
I am a 59 year old lady married to a 56 year old man who found out only 3 years ago that he has Asperger's. The failure of the psychological community (in SC), to recognize this condition, has caused us untold grief, especially me. We've been married for 17 years. The communication problems have naturally sent us to many marriage counselors, once on the advice of psychiatrist. This gentleman barely gave me 10 minutes to explain the problems, and saw me as a complaining wife, and thus sent us packing, inappropriately, to marriage counseling. I find myself angry beyond belief that my husband's parents have been so clueless as to never seek help for him (even if they found none), and even today they are in denial about his condition.
I learned a great deal by reading a book by Maxine C. Aston, entitled, THE OTHER HALF OF ASPERGER'S. It reads like my autobiography. Sadly, I would have to say from experience that a person with Asperger's, in my opinion, is in no way marriage material. How sad that this malady has been recongnized and addressed in England and Australia for decades more than it was ever brought to the forefront in America. There must be thousands of undiagnosed "Aspies" trying to function in marriages that don't work, and in careers where their social traits are a hindrance to their advancement, regardless of their academic skills, which are usually high.
I am a 59 year old lady married to a 56 year old man who found out only 3 years ago that he has Asperger's. The failure of the psychological community (in SC), to recognize this condition, has caused us untold grief, especially me. We've been married for 17 years. The communication problems have naturally sent us to many marriage counselors, once on the advice of psychiatrist. This gentleman barely gave me 10 minutes to explain the problems, and saw me as a complaining wife, and thus sent us packing, inappropriately, to marriage counseling. I find myself angry beyond belief that my husband's parents have been so clueless as to never seek help for him (even if they found none), and even today they are in denial about his condition.
I learned a great deal by reading a book by Maxine C. Aston, entitled, THE OTHER HALF OF ASPERGER'S. It reads like my autobiography. Sadly, I would have to say from experience that a person with Asperger's, in my opinion, is in no way marriage material. How sad that this malady has been recongnized and addressed in England and Australia for decades more than it was ever brought to the forefront in America. There must be thousands of undiagnosed "Aspies" trying to function in marriages that don't work, and in careers where their social traits are a hindrance to their advancement, regardless of their academic skills, which are usually high.
01-19-2006, 12:51 AM
Brainmatters Inc -- sounds like they bought an expensive diagnostic machine and are looking for ways to make money with it.
- I only saw just the last few minutes of the teen with AS. I was not impressed but then Dr. Phil has the "ten minute" solutions for every problem. The other half of the show was showing a brain image of man with Tourettes. He complained about his involuntary use of the F-word and "***". He felt very ashamed of that more than anything else.
The scan photos were supposed to increased blood flow to different parts of the brain when compared to "normal brains". I think blood flow in anyone's brain might be due to what activities a person usually does or even some purely physical difference (clot or something). I would suspect that my digestive system would show increased blood flow after a meal. Maybe someone with AS might have a greater blood flow in certain areas of their brain because they actually use their brain more than others. How can that be bad?
- I only saw just the last few minutes of the teen with AS. I was not impressed but then Dr. Phil has the "ten minute" solutions for every problem. The other half of the show was showing a brain image of man with Tourettes. He complained about his involuntary use of the F-word and "***". He felt very ashamed of that more than anything else.
The scan photos were supposed to increased blood flow to different parts of the brain when compared to "normal brains". I think blood flow in anyone's brain might be due to what activities a person usually does or even some purely physical difference (clot or something). I would suspect that my digestive system would show increased blood flow after a meal. Maybe someone with AS might have a greater blood flow in certain areas of their brain because they actually use their brain more than others. How can that be bad?
01-19-2006, 12:05 PM
I wondered how long it would be before Dr Phil got onto the subject of Aspergers on his show and am very disappointed about his lack of understanding.
01-19-2006, 12:18 PM
Anybody with even the tiniest bit of common sense would realise that yelling at an angry teenager is sure to escalate the conflict. This goes double for an angry teenager with Aspergers! Or in fact, anyone with Aspergers.
Dr Phil thanks his wife for "taking him in hand" when he was young and turning him into the caring and understanding person he is now. Give me a break! He must have either been really terrible or okay but turned into a sanctimonious and self-aggrandizing bore.
His wife actually annoys me even more than he does. She puts herself across as being so perfect and yet nobody can be that much of a goody two-shoes!
Some of the people (especially some of the women) on his show can be very irritating too. I was watching Dr Phil a week or so ago when he was revisiting some of his old stories. There was this woman whining that her husband wanted to spend all his free time watching sport on TV rather than catering to her every whim.
I'm not a big sports fan myself but could see why the poor husband preferred to watch the game on telly rather than listen to her constant whining.
I take it the "Dr" is an honorary title then?
Dr Phil thanks his wife for "taking him in hand" when he was young and turning him into the caring and understanding person he is now. Give me a break! He must have either been really terrible or okay but turned into a sanctimonious and self-aggrandizing bore.
His wife actually annoys me even more than he does. She puts herself across as being so perfect and yet nobody can be that much of a goody two-shoes!
Some of the people (especially some of the women) on his show can be very irritating too. I was watching Dr Phil a week or so ago when he was revisiting some of his old stories. There was this woman whining that her husband wanted to spend all his free time watching sport on TV rather than catering to her every whim.
I'm not a big sports fan myself but could see why the poor husband preferred to watch the game on telly rather than listen to her constant whining.
I take it the "Dr" is an honorary title then?
01-19-2006, 06:01 PM
I didn't see the show either, but I wrote a letter complaining about the language used on the show's website.
01-20-2006, 02:15 AM
Iron_Man Wrote:
Given that he does not even have a doctrate in psychology, I find it aggravating that we cannot get up on national TV and denounce him to the rest of the world. :twisted:
I think the rest of the world already know he is a farce, particularly psychologists themselves
01-20-2006, 02:57 AM
I just watched it on my DVR. It really was as bad as all the posts on this thread have said. If anyone thought folks have been exaggerating, think again.
01-21-2006, 01:13 PM
Apparently, Dr Phil was a great friend of Oprah Winfrey's and had pride of place on her show. However, a couple of years ago, he told her that being overweight was "a personal choice she was making" and that offended her no end - hence the rift in their friendship.
Typically tactful Dr Phil! :mad:
Actually, I think he is a legend in his own mind.
Typically tactful Dr Phil! :mad:
Actually, I think he is a legend in his own mind.
01-24-2006, 05:50 PM
crys Wrote:
"Although Dr. Phil and staff did show a lot of the MELTDOWNS we did discuss how wonderful Alex can be. Alex has a heart of gold when his electrical system is not out of control. Alex not only is ASPERGER but also has ADHD and Mood Disorders. Usually an Asperger individual has multiple neurological issues and they overlap. " -the mother from the show on the messageboard.
Did they think to mention that on the show at all?! Here they are focused on meltdowns, and he has so-called Mood Disorders. The mother seems to understand the concept of comorbidity. They're presenting this to the world as "asperger's" but the mother herself admits there's more than that going on.
Did they think to mention that on the show at all?! Here they are focused on meltdowns, and he has so-called Mood Disorders. The mother seems to understand the concept of comorbidity. They're presenting this to the world as "asperger's" but the mother herself admits there's more than that going on.
That would certainly fit his behavioral description WAY more than just AS. The impulse control problem Alex is having may very well be a form of comorbidity and also a result of combination with ADHD.
I think Oprah should do a show on Asperger's one day and let the current adult generation of Aspies talk, and talk about what we've already accomplished and can help the people who are diagnosed on the spectrum. Most shows done by the media are focused solely on a set of parents with a son/daughter that has some kind of "problem". Why not let us explain ourselves how we think about things here?
BTW, the combo AS/ADHD isn't very uncommon. I'm a similar case and although I don't have the anger managment problem in such an extent (I had an episode once in my life running through a glass pane in a door), I do beleive that it's also a part in biochemistry and neurotransmitter balance. I take Risperdal to "calm the storm" that's running in my head sometimes, without it it's just so hard for me to clear my mind and relax. It works as a bit of a damper for me. Unlike Ritalin (which is one of the first drugs I got prescribed at an early age) which does tend to have very adverse effect on people with ASD.
12-30-2006, 03:01 AM
Reyima Wrote:
I remember hearing Philly got into a fight with Oprah
ZOMG LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Yup, I agree that Dr. Phil's an eejit. Seems like a lot of Texans are, too......Bush.....Phil.....the people who developed the autism prenatal test thingy in Texas....
While I've never seen the show, it sounds really stupid, awful, and quackish.
12-30-2006, 02:33 PM
He obviously edits shows to make himself look good and the people in them look bad, most of the time.