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This is a great example of the public opinion we need to change, and that change will only come by displaying to the wider community that autistic people can be happy and productive members of society, not miserable failures or freaks requiring institutionalisation.

Don't blame neurotypicals for being ignorant, we're all ignorant of some things. The responsibility rests on us to inform them of our issue, not on them to seek it out.
You can bring a horse to water but you can't make an ignorant person any wiser.

GuessWho Wrote:
You can bring a horse to water but you can't make an ignorant person any wiser.


That's a very negative stance Sad

Even the most intelligent, open-minded and kind-hearted person is completely ignorant until they are informed.

kamikazebadger statement against stereotyping: "Talk about a stereotype! There is one other autistic boy who annoyed me last summer, but that doesn't mean we're ALL annoying!"

kamikazebadger's own stereotyping : "NTs are still ignorant"

Reverse stereotyping is not the best way to end stereotyping.
Ignorance is born out of a lack of understanding, folks. Everyone (NT and otherwise) has that problem - it just shows in different ways and in different areas.
Listen, YOU ARE BORN WITH AUTISM! YOU DON'T JUST GET IT! And those of who do have it love it.[/quote]
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I totally agree with you. I resent people who think aspies should be cured, especially when most of them have so much to contribute to society.

If I had the choice to have treatment to make me NT, I would refuse it. I love being the person I am, but this has not always been the case because as a child i really suffered for being different. It was my own intelligence that pulled me through and allowed me to look over the problems and choose to enjoy my life by living it the way I wanted to. Now I am happier than ever and would not have my life any other way.

What worries me also is if there was a cure, would it involve brain surgery? As what makes us different is the way our brains work, then surely that is the case. I am not willing to let anyone experiment on me, though am worried for some children who might make that decision for them and push them into it.

It is a very frightening prospect!!
Anna.
I'm not completely sure whether I had Asperger since conception, since the first trimester, since birth (end of second trimester), since after birth, or since the age of maybe 3, but it is all close enough to being born with it.

Not all NTs are ignorant, but there are so many ignorant NTs that you are very fortunate to avoid them entirely.   As for many of the rest, they can't or won't handle us in a work environment.  I don't even think most of them can or will handle us as mates.

I am not sure whether it is a matter of can or will.  Practically, the difference is really moot to us.

[Flashback to "you can't handle the truth!"]

Most of our personality, most of our life problems, and all of the solutions still come from socialization.  Don't underestimate the love of your parents, even if my dad wished I'd disappear after college, and even though I was eager to oblige him, there but for the lack of a sufficient job.  

tangent Wrote:
Moving out is kind of like space flight, you need sufficient escape velocity, an F-15 or a job at McD ain't gonna get you there.  Only in recent years have I been confident enough to note that I am completely in geo-synchronous orbit.  In fact I am in solar orbit entirely as an independent solar orbitting object, my parents are dead, and for all I know I might decide on some satellites of my own, if I find a suitable female planet to co-exist with.  Immanuel Velikosky's book Worlds in Collision comes to mind all of a sudden, did Venus really come out of the head of Jupiter, and was there a close encounter with Mars in 687 BC?


A big part of the answer is going to be accepting ourselves as we are, not that it is easy, it is not.  Young human beings are so good at making other young human beings like us feel so bad about ourselves, it doesn't matter whether or not our tormentors ever grow up, because they're still there in our heads, maybe for a life time, maybe a long life time, maybe one cut short by suicide.  Either until we die or we learn how to kill the ghosts of childhood past.

So let's learn how to kill the ghosts, OK?

Arg I cant find the thread D:
Yes rossco being Anti-NT's is as stupid as been anti-AS,

I think many of these pro-cures are just blinded in their wishes to become ''normal'' and ''less suffering’’ the people who they love, Maybe they just need to listen us well and get more informed Smile of course there are jerks like this guy:
  

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People with austism anoy me.

I know it sucks
1.  having a degree but not getting through all those damned interviews
2.  having a job and not getting any woman's attention

It would make me really consider a cure, but only for me.

I'm sure it sucks too if you have something to tell someone but can't express it.  


wilky Wrote:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on something you have said here.
My child is LFA. I know he DOES NOT LOVE IT, and most likely never will.
Please consider that 'autism' can and does manifest in many varying degrees of difficulties and challenges.

Wilky, what does your child dislike about LFA?  If you'd rather PM me, please do.

quickduck Wrote:
It should also be noted that much of the unhappiness people with AS/LFA experience is not due to the autism itself; but instead due to society's inability or unwillingness to adapt to our needs.


You have the point quickduck!! Maybe is the majority of the cases, AS itself doesn't make unhappy, well at least not me, i think there should be a cure for the comorbids, that are on my opinion the things that need to be cured, but respecting to the Autistic Spectrum maybe we only need is more understanding from the people because their treat toward us is what make us unhappy sometimes

quickduck Wrote:
It should also be noted that much of the unhappiness people with AS/LFA experience is not due to the autism itself; but instead due to society's inability or unwillingness to adapt to our needs.


Our culture can't be fixed, QuickDuck.

It has to be destroyed by Jesus Christ when He returns.

Good riddance.  We won't be talking derisively about 40 year old virgins any more, we won't have sitcoms with nerds being the butt of jokes if they get out of line and start asking girls out.  While we're at it people won't diss unattractive people, either.  

But people who haven't accepted salvation will also take the express elevator to the bottom floor with central heating.

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Our culture can't be fixed, QuickDuck.

It has to be destroyed by Jesus Christ when He returns.


If the almighty Avatar of God even bothers. I think he and Michael are still going "WTF mate?!" at human socitiey

GuessWho Wrote:

quickduck Wrote:
It should also be noted that much of the unhappiness people with AS/LFA experience is not due to the autism itself; but instead due to society's inability or unwillingness to adapt to our needs.


 

But people who haven't accepted salvation will also take the express elevator to the bottom floor with central heating.

I'd like to go to the bottom floor, with central heating. It gets mighty cold here in this state in the winter. Sweating helps to rid the body of impuritys. Lord Lucifer will protect me from any tyranical divine dictators.

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