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Couldn't we team up with ISNT and build on what they have already done ? Combining the two sites on this particular NT Parody might prove fruitful in many ways -contact / co-operation / combination etc. You probably know more about ISNT and its creators though, just a thought...

Are you going to insert 'typical' for 'normal' though, as normal implies abnormal etc ?

Thrillseeker.

Brightman Wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to laugh at ourselves rather than at others if we want them to listen to us, we'll have to make it entertaining or it might not register.


I was thinking that since we are trying to raise awareness in people, they might misinterpret something as subtle as an NT awareness thing / take offence. I am undecided about it (but should have said something at the meeting-sorry)
-I just don't know how most people are going to respond to or even 'get' the experience of being placed under the power discourse of the medical profession in this way. When I showed ISNT to my wife she thought it was very funny but she is not one of the people who perhaps don't know what autism/AS is in the first place and what it is like to be on the receiving end of a discourse like that.
On the other hand, hers could be the main reaction and it could work.
Perhaps we could keep it in reserve until the following year when AFF's aims and existence (to the rest of the world) were better known.

Amy Wrote:
Time is of the essence Thrillseeker, people may or may not get the joke, they may never hear about it, but we can enjoy ourselves anyway.


Oh, I think I see now - it's an internal AFF thing ?
Damn being late for meeting.

Thrillseeker.

DSM definition
Neurotypical Disorder is defined in section 299.70 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Orders? (DSM-IV) as:
A. Qualitative involvement in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. Marked use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture?, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. Highly developed peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. A spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. Skilled degree of social or emotional reciprocity
B. Patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. Displays a moderate interest in multiple subjects.
2. Apparently flexible adherence to non-specific, functional routines or rituals
3. Marked sense of balance and/or good motor coordination.
4. Persistent preoccupation with people and their conversations.
C. The disturbance causes clinically significant functional capability in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D. There is no clinically significant display of imagination, giftedness, systemizing, stemming, art, high skill or knowledge in any one subject, aloof like manners, intelligence, naiveté, youthful pursuits or interests, visual acuity, eidetic memory, high or low sensitivity, comprehension of time, high early language skills, encyclopedic knowledge, or high degree of reasoning or logic.
E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills or adaptive behavior (other than imagination and hyperfocusing on few subjects) and curiosity about the environment? in childhood
F. Criteria are not met for another specific Mentally Average Human Disorder or Basic Human Lifeform Order?.

ParanoidThrillseeker Wrote:

Brightman Wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to laugh at ourselves rather than at others if we want them to listen to us, we'll have to make it entertaining or it might not register.


I was thinking that since we are trying to raise awareness in people, they might misinterpret something as subtle as an NT awareness thing / take offence. I am undecided about it (but should have said something at the meeting-sorry)
-I just don't know how most people are going to respond to or even 'get' the experience of being placed under the power discourse of the medical profession in this way. When I showed ISNT to my wife she thought it was very funny but she is not one of the people who perhaps don't know what autism/AS is in the first place and what it is like to be on the receiving end of a discourse like that.
On the other hand, hers could be the main reaction and it could work.
Perhaps we could keep it in reserve until the following year when AFF's aims and existence (to the rest of the world) were better known.


Personally, I think most of the comments and NT disorders are very amusing and most NT's would also find them so. I'll even be your guest NT if you like - I've been trying to make myself less independant but my wife keeps refusing to fetch me beer. I even tried using PECS by holding up a picture of a can of beer and pointning to my mouth but she just responds with sign language of her own.

Kev Wrote:
I even tried using PECS by holding up a picture of a can of beer and pointning to my mouth but she just responds with sign language of her own.

LOL now there's an idea...

I do wonder though, whether pictures of beer and other adult themes are included in some visual communications packages NOT aimed at kids...  :-(

First off, DSM-IV is the acronym for:

(Diabolically Shortsighted Misnomers)-Volume IV !!!!

Cool
'Like' syndrome?
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
Neutrotypical Disorder Criterias:


A. A total of thirteen (or more items) from (1), (2), and (3), with at least five from (1) and four each from (2) and (3):
(1) Social interaction impairment as manifested by at least five of the following
a. Seeks out groups to belong to.
b. Needs group approval.
c. Reliance on nonverbal communication at the cost of hearing what is said.
d. Excessive sharing of emotions.
e. Decressed sharing of interests.
f. Incressed loss of self in favior of hive mind.
g. Decressed ability to focus or concentrate.
h. Emotional issues arrising upon discovery of differing thoughts, feelings, etc.
i. Decressed sensory information.


(2) qualitative impairments in communication, as manifested by at least four of the following:
a. Delay in, or total lack of, the development of basic logic reasoning skills.
b. Marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a logical conversation with others.
c. Marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation about ones interest with others.
d. Marked impairment in clearly understanding what is said, due to being occupied by nonverbal communication.
e. Emotional outbursts due to not clearly understanding what is said.
f. Lacking empathy


(3). Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least four of the following:
a. Changes subjects in conversation frequantly.
b. Asks questions only to keep the conversation going, not out of geniun interest.
c. Inflexable in social rituals or routines.
d. Obsessive preoccupation with people.
e. Emotional trama arrising when faced with differing social rituals or routines.
f. Obsessive need to make everyone's behaver mirror their own.
g. Theory of Mind or Mind Reading delusions.
h. Obsessed with ideals of good or bad, and healthy or unhealthy.
i. Asks for feedback to determan if people approve of them.
j. Lack of stiming such as rocking, flapping hands or humming.
k. Restricted make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level


B. The disturbance causes significant incress risk of depression, anxiety, stress and other health problems.

C. The disturbance causes the individual in most cases to need to be repeatly told what was said in order to understand the conversation, if the individuals hasn't already lost interest in the conversation and changed the subject.

D. The disturbance causes significant delay in the development of individuality and ones self image, making alone time difficult if not impossable to deal with.

E. The disturbance is not better accounted for by ADD, ADHD, Old age, Drug Addiction, OCD, Co-depancy or by another Normal Disorder.
Neurotypical Disorder (NTD)

Neurotypical Disorder (NTD) is a neurological condition commonly affecting individuals who are not on the autistic spectrum. Many theories have been put forward to explain the bizarre behaviours and beliefs of people with NTD. The numerous and complex cognitive impairments of NTD patients cannot be described in a document of this size. I would like to propose a model of a triad of impairments; Interpersonal Compulsion (IC), egocentricity and an impaired Theory of Minds (T O M), to explain the disordered personalities of patients with NTD.

Sufferers of NTD compulsively seek interpersonal experiences in the form of social events or casual meetings, in fact any contact with another human being is seen by the neurotypical patient as an opportunity for creating an interpersonal emotional experience. The drive to satisfy their emotional needs pervades every aspect of their lives. Simple telephone messages or financial transactions with supermarket cashiers are hijacked to meet this social compulsion. IC impairs the NTD sufferer's ability to live independently and maintain employment, as IC commonly causes NTD patients to waste time during working hours gossiping and chatting instead of productive activity. IC can also impair the NTD patient's ability to maintain personal relationships as they may become depressed or resentful if their voracious emotional needs are not met by spouses, family and friends. NTD patients may even turn to their own children to satisfy their emotional needs.

The obsession with being a part of social groups that is commonly observed in NTD patients can leave sufferers tragically vulnerable to peer-group pressure and commercial advertising that exploits social psychology. NTD sufferers often demean themselves by manifesting deceptive behaviour and flattery in desperate attempts to establish and maintain personal relationships.

The egocentric nature of neurotypical individuals can be observed in their insistence that all people who they meet act in an engaging and attentive manner towards them. NTD sufferers can become offended or resentful when others are not as socially oriented as they themselves are. This insistence on sameness and conformity is possibly another manifestation of neurotypical egocentricity.

Neurotypical individuals display Theory of Minds deficits. NTD sufferers are unable to abstractly theorise that others have intellectual capacity, emotions or humanity, instead NTD patients rely solely on non-verbal and verbal expressive displays and performances by others as the basis of their beliefs about the internal world of others. NTD sufferers are unable to recognise the humanity of others who do not frequently share or demonstrate social/emotional characteristics.

Egocentricity, Interpersonal Compulsion and Theory of Minds deficits account for the neurotypical patient's needs for constant reassurance and social interaction. These needs constitute a considerable drain on the resources of family members and the wider community.

Other mental disorders found to be comorbid with NTD include depression, anxiety and alcoholism. Alcoholism in this population has a 5.5% prevalence rate, based on US data, which is more than one person in 20. It is estimated that around 20% of adult females who have NTD will also suffer from clinical depression at some time in their lives (based on US data). Psychosis is a not uncommon occurrence within the NTD population, but the exact rate is unknown. Clearly this is a dangerous cluster of psychopathology.

While effective therapies exist for the comorbidities commonly found with NTD, there is no clear professional consensus or body of scientific evidence supporting any therapy, behavioural intervention, medication or cure for NTD. NTD is a highly heritable disease. If both natural parents have an NTD diagnosis, the odds are overwhelmingly high that all of their offspring will also have the disorder. Currently the best hope for the future lies in the availability of Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) to screen out embryos that carry the NTD genetic defect.


Associate Professor Lili Marlene
Department of Psuedopsychology
University of Central Suburbia
Southern Aspergalia
I will never get used to having to carry a *** mobile phone around with me. I forget to listen out for calls and forget to check for missed calls and never seem to find time to return calls. The phone was given to me.

My satirical piece is a send up of neurotypicals but it just as much a send up of unobjective, emotive and thoroughly biased scientific writing, especially the type created by psychiatry researchers and writers of pop science magazine articles. These people don't seem to consider that some of their readers might be autistic, or don't care if they offend such readers.
My sister Rachel, totally suffers from DaD. She wants to be a famous singer, unfortunetly though..she's not exactly a size 2. You know how cruel people can be about people who are overweight, but it's like she still thinks she'll be the next Britney Spears despite what anyone says.

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She wants to be a famous singer, unfortunetly though..she's not exactly a size 2. You know how cruel people can be about people who are overweight, but it's like she still thinks she'll be the next Britney Spears despite what anyone says.

I read that Barbra Streisand had a burning ambition to be a singer but was discouraged by many who thought her to be too ugly to succeed. I'm so glad she persisted.

I believe there was an obese young lady who won the Australian version of a top-rating TV singing contest, I don't recall the name of the show. She did have a really great voice and talent, but her career didn't take off apparently, I think due to ethnic and family issues.

Dogface Wrote:
Because anyone who fails to speak perfect Queen's English--or fails to use good orthographic convention, is quite the "Stupid Idiot"?


Your acting like a misspelling is the same, as claiming talking like a babbling 2 year old learning to speak when you're an adult, is a language.

What is Ebonics?
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