12-07-2005, 01:46 PM
12-08-2005, 12:16 AM
The ADHD controversy rears its ugly head again.
I've got enough trouble trying to get treatment for a very real condition thankyou very much!
I've got enough trouble trying to get treatment for a very real condition thankyou very much!
12-08-2005, 01:02 PM
WARNING: This man is a Scientology cult shill.
The so-called Citizen's Commission On Human Rights is in fact nothing more than a front through which the Scientology cult makes slanderous and baseless accusations against the psychiatric profession. Among some of their better-known claims are that there are two million children or adolescents taking antidepressant medications that, again according to them, induce suicidal behaviour.
Put in short, this is a troll of the worst kind. You want the face of our biggest enemy? Here it is. I recommend Operation Clambake's document A World Without... at http://www.xenu.net/archive/world_without/ for those who want to know why the battle against Scientologists is one we cannot afford to lose.
The so-called Citizen's Commission On Human Rights is in fact nothing more than a front through which the Scientology cult makes slanderous and baseless accusations against the psychiatric profession. Among some of their better-known claims are that there are two million children or adolescents taking antidepressant medications that, again according to them, induce suicidal behaviour.
Put in short, this is a troll of the worst kind. You want the face of our biggest enemy? Here it is. I recommend Operation Clambake's document A World Without... at http://www.xenu.net/archive/world_without/ for those who want to know why the battle against Scientologists is one we cannot afford to lose.
12-08-2005, 01:27 PM
The church of scientology are completely disreputable. They believe that only their own bizarre form of therapy can heal people's minds, (at great expense to the person of course).
12-08-2005, 01:34 PM
Yes, but the point is that they have a massive war chest (funded in part by the American taxpayer I might add) that they can use to silence dissension. The tide is only being held back by sites like the one I just linked to, or countries like Germany.
I regularly get into slanging matches with defenders of Tom Cruise on the IMDB, through which I have met a couple of parents with autistic children. Remind me sometime to quote a moment from the sci-fi miniseries V (a great story to apply as an analogy for our situation). It illustrates how I see people like this tosser.
I regularly get into slanging matches with defenders of Tom Cruise on the IMDB, through which I have met a couple of parents with autistic children. Remind me sometime to quote a moment from the sci-fi miniseries V (a great story to apply as an analogy for our situation). It illustrates how I see people like this tosser.
12-08-2005, 05:38 PM
I have no connection with the Church of Scientology at all, but at least their exposing the abuse what's happeing in psychiatry, especially as individuals with ASD's and other neurodversity impairments are more like to be 'victims' of this abuse within psychaiatry as what happened in the Pier's Bolduc case.
Has anyone of you watched the Focault Tribunal on the State of Psychiatry that I posted to AFF yesterday. It's a must watch and it will enlighten you about how abusive psychaitry really is. Psychology is not much better too, especially ABA
Has anyone of you watched the Focault Tribunal on the State of Psychiatry that I posted to AFF yesterday. It's a must watch and it will enlighten you about how abusive psychaitry really is. Psychology is not much better too, especially ABA
12-09-2005, 11:55 AM
Iron Man
Who do think you are? You come across has being arrogrant and a bully.
Can't you show bit of respect for other people's point of views and allow for freedom of expression and respect for an individual's basic human and civil rights.
This is a democratic forum and you or anyone else can't dictate autocratically who others can speak too.
Who do you think you are?
Can't you 'GROW-UP'!
I'll will not get into arguments with you.
So if you don't want to reply to my posts, then that's your basic human rights, but please then don't start being abusive to me, because I don't play them sort of childish agrressive games. I have not got the time and energy to argue with you or anyones else on AFF. So as I said let it be and please don't respond to any of my posts and I'll show you the same respect and do the same.
'END OF MATTER'!!
Who do think you are? You come across has being arrogrant and a bully.
Can't you show bit of respect for other people's point of views and allow for freedom of expression and respect for an individual's basic human and civil rights.
This is a democratic forum and you or anyone else can't dictate autocratically who others can speak too.
Who do you think you are?
Can't you 'GROW-UP'!
I'll will not get into arguments with you.
So if you don't want to reply to my posts, then that's your basic human rights, but please then don't start being abusive to me, because I don't play them sort of childish agrressive games. I have not got the time and energy to argue with you or anyones else on AFF. So as I said let it be and please don't respond to any of my posts and I'll show you the same respect and do the same.
'END OF MATTER'!!
12-09-2005, 12:18 PM
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Nobody is going to watch something posted by you, flat and simple. You have alienated every living thing on the board.
Christ, colin may not be the most diplomatic or effective communicator on the planet but that doesn't give the green light to personal attacks like this.
12-09-2005, 01:06 PM
Greetings,
Just because a scientologist says something dosent mean dosent mean it has no basis in truth (although in their case it often does :p )
I think alot of people here will have their own experiences of what a joke psychiatry (and psychology) can be. I'm just recovering from the effects of a particularly nasty antidepressant - all because of their policy of "we only treat surface level symptoms and dont give a flying f*** about the underlying causes". Not to sound arrogant but they really havent got a clue. They speculate without any knowledge of what actually goes on in a person's mind and anyone who has tried to correct them knows what kind of a reaction that gets. And I have it on good authority that there is alot of financial incentive behind these bad practices - for example doctors are 'rewarded' for pushing certain products. This brings me to ADHD again. I accept there probably are alot of children being unnecessarily medicated - and one of the biggest impacts of that is on the credibility of those who genuinely have the condition. I'll stop here before I go into a rant :p
Oh and please refrain from personal attacks here. That goes for everyone.
Just because a scientologist says something dosent mean dosent mean it has no basis in truth (although in their case it often does :p )
I think alot of people here will have their own experiences of what a joke psychiatry (and psychology) can be. I'm just recovering from the effects of a particularly nasty antidepressant - all because of their policy of "we only treat surface level symptoms and dont give a flying f*** about the underlying causes". Not to sound arrogant but they really havent got a clue. They speculate without any knowledge of what actually goes on in a person's mind and anyone who has tried to correct them knows what kind of a reaction that gets. And I have it on good authority that there is alot of financial incentive behind these bad practices - for example doctors are 'rewarded' for pushing certain products. This brings me to ADHD again. I accept there probably are alot of children being unnecessarily medicated - and one of the biggest impacts of that is on the credibility of those who genuinely have the condition. I'll stop here before I go into a rant :p
Oh and please refrain from personal attacks here. That goes for everyone.
12-09-2005, 05:30 PM
Sociopaths are the only ones that deserve to be shot on sight - everyone else deserves fair treatment 
12-09-2005, 08:07 PM
Iron_Man Wrote:
That is an understatement, Lazarus. He speaks to me in a manner, well, let's put it this way. Teachers have been scared to speak to me at all, leave alone like that, since I was twelve years old. From the time I was twelve to the time I was seventeen, I endured constant abuse from professional psychologists/psychiatrists that at two points almost led to my death and at others could have led to my permanent impotence. I would still fight to the death to protect them from guys like this simply because they follow a vaguely scientific method.
And if that is honestly your idea of a personal attack, you ought to watch me respond to normies acting like they are owed any sympathy by me in person.
Oh, and let's be frank. He is acting like a crybaby who thinks that bawling is going to get him out from under the weight of evidence. All I posted to get that arrogant little diatribe from him (which is basically guilty of everything it accuses me of) was that the Scientology cult is a load of crap that threatens our rights, and that the motives of people posting it in a forum for those who have a neurological diversity that is currently more of a curse are suspect.
And if that is honestly your idea of a personal attack, you ought to watch me respond to normies acting like they are owed any sympathy by me in person.
Oh, and let's be frank. He is acting like a crybaby who thinks that bawling is going to get him out from under the weight of evidence. All I posted to get that arrogant little diatribe from him (which is basically guilty of everything it accuses me of) was that the Scientology cult is a load of crap that threatens our rights, and that the motives of people posting it in a forum for those who have a neurological diversity that is currently more of a curse are suspect.
Well im sorry but regardless of whether your right or wrong there is no need to be such an aggressive communicator. You need to learn the balance between aggression and assertiveness. All I have observed so far is a disagreement of various board members towards colin and the swooping in of the vultures to pick on him. I don't ask for special treatment he clearly has views that are totally unfounded I wouldn't trust a rich mans cult like the scientologists under any circumstances for example but it takes more maturity to confront by assertiveness rather then simply beating people down with ridicule.
12-10-2005, 01:37 AM
Shame your life isn't the issue
12-12-2005, 05:15 PM
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There is only one person in this thread who has acted aggressively, and it is not me.
I beg to differ. push the back button or click page one and re-read the thread then tell me you were not being aggressive. Colin responded to your aggression not the other way around.
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If every Aspie in the world banded together and fought the war it is going to take to get the normies to stop treating us like something on the bottom of their shoe, we could change the world. Instead, I have to sit here and listen to how we should beg for them to accept us. No sale.
What makes you assume I am not involved in trying to create change before? I have a history before joinning this forum, before joining danda. I have fought the heiarchy before and I will continue to do so to bring about more change.
I am far from a all accepting pacifist and you are welcome to underestimate me all you want.
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Considering this clown is not even grown up enough to realise that you earn respect, not demand it, you are against me if you are with him
Well with regards to maturity you have a few lessons to learn yourself. Aggression will not earn you respect and certainly is not mature behaviour.
I am not supporting colin in what he says but equally I don't support you to launch aggressive attacks against him. I am being reasonable here in saying so.
Likewise if colin was the initial aggressor I would be saying the same to him.
I am never impressed by aggressive bravado.
12-12-2005, 08:10 PM
Iron Man I think you can't deny yourself that you have a strong tone in your posts that can be somewhat aggressive/defensive, not towards other members specifically, but you have an inner anger from the things you have suffered, and that strongly comes across.
I am not saying you are wrong to feel how you feel, but other people can surely not help noticing it.
I am not saying you are wrong to feel how you feel, but other people can surely not help noticing it.
12-12-2005, 11:28 PM
I know you aren't the only one.
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