10-01-2005, 01:07 AM
10-01-2005, 01:09 AM
I'm a frickin' puppy. >_>
10-01-2005, 01:10 AM
mow!
meow!
critical meow!
meow!
critical meow!
10-01-2005, 08:52 AM
10-01-2005, 09:00 AM
Um, Feral animals are pretty mcuh a fact of life outside cities =/ Her story is typical of someone who's knowledge of animals doesn't go beyond domestic house cats.
In Spain where I live you get huge packs of feral dogs roaming about (Which they poison), but people out walking domestic dogs have been attacked by them, and left to their own devices they can cause all sorts of problems (Getting into tips and shredding binbags across roads, leaving fecis all over the place), most have mange and the like and you wouldn't want to try stroking one, god knows what you'd catch.
It sounds cruel I suppose to someone who's lived in a city all their life, but if you live in say - a desert mountain region (ie. where I live), feral animals can have quite a dire impact on farming and argiculture and in the case of dogs; general safety when in the wilds. (More than 1 person's found himself in hospital with any number of bite-transmitted diseases)
It's all too common in tourist areas, tourist from the city come out, they see the feral cats and think "aw it's an abandoned kitty" (They're probably 5th or 6th generation feral, they're perfectly at home), they learn to come into the town areas, beg for scraps, which they get and can support a large litter, nobody is going to have then neutered because nobody owns them, and they go on to have more and more ktitens til they become a serious pest, where they get cruelly poisoned.
It's ladies like her who needs to stop feeding them, then they won't have a "plenty" situation to rear large litters, which in turn ensures they don't become a "pest", which attracts the attention of pest control. They won't die if they're not fed, they wouldn't be surviving as feral animals if they had no viable food source.
In Spain where I live you get huge packs of feral dogs roaming about (Which they poison), but people out walking domestic dogs have been attacked by them, and left to their own devices they can cause all sorts of problems (Getting into tips and shredding binbags across roads, leaving fecis all over the place), most have mange and the like and you wouldn't want to try stroking one, god knows what you'd catch.
It sounds cruel I suppose to someone who's lived in a city all their life, but if you live in say - a desert mountain region (ie. where I live), feral animals can have quite a dire impact on farming and argiculture and in the case of dogs; general safety when in the wilds. (More than 1 person's found himself in hospital with any number of bite-transmitted diseases)
It's all too common in tourist areas, tourist from the city come out, they see the feral cats and think "aw it's an abandoned kitty" (They're probably 5th or 6th generation feral, they're perfectly at home), they learn to come into the town areas, beg for scraps, which they get and can support a large litter, nobody is going to have then neutered because nobody owns them, and they go on to have more and more ktitens til they become a serious pest, where they get cruelly poisoned.
It's ladies like her who needs to stop feeding them, then they won't have a "plenty" situation to rear large litters, which in turn ensures they don't become a "pest", which attracts the attention of pest control. They won't die if they're not fed, they wouldn't be surviving as feral animals if they had no viable food source.
10-01-2005, 12:03 PM
Starving them is in some ways more cruel then killing them suddenly. Personally, I would prefer to put them in shelters rather than kill them.
10-01-2005, 12:07 PM
Feral cats won't just starve anyway. They will hunt for food, search through dustbins, in nature cats aren't fed by humans every day.
However when they hunt ferally, people don't like it, having dustbins tipped over, sacks ripped open, and usually then they want the feral cat problem eradicated.
However when they hunt ferally, people don't like it, having dustbins tipped over, sacks ripped open, and usually then they want the feral cat problem eradicated.
10-01-2005, 09:37 PM
I wouldn't say the person running that site is part of the problem, Ryuujin. She did have them all fixed, remember.
Personally, I don't know what should be done with all the feral cats and dogs in places where they pose a threat. It's fine to say that we made it happen in the first place, but the fact is that it happened. Something has to be done about it. It would be impossible to capture and neuter/spay all the feral cats and dogs, after all. What I think could and should be done to help the situation is to impose laws requiring all people with neuterable/spayable pets to get those pets fixed, except for licensed breeders. However, this won't fix the whole problem. Honestly, I'm not very knowledgeable in this area.
All I know is I hope to make horribly exaggerated pro-vegetarian platformer video games (even though I'm not a vegetarian ...yet) that are fun to play on their own merits, starring Carl the Clam and the Cranberry Elephant.
Personally, I don't know what should be done with all the feral cats and dogs in places where they pose a threat. It's fine to say that we made it happen in the first place, but the fact is that it happened. Something has to be done about it. It would be impossible to capture and neuter/spay all the feral cats and dogs, after all. What I think could and should be done to help the situation is to impose laws requiring all people with neuterable/spayable pets to get those pets fixed, except for licensed breeders. However, this won't fix the whole problem. Honestly, I'm not very knowledgeable in this area.
All I know is I hope to make horribly exaggerated pro-vegetarian platformer video games (even though I'm not a vegetarian ...yet) that are fun to play on their own merits, starring Carl the Clam and the Cranberry Elephant.
10-03-2005, 05:01 PM
I would not doom/judge people who "kill" wild feral cats if they were a problem (hygienical or something), but it should be done in a "human" way.
It's us who cause the problem (not caring for our cats, not neutering them properly or just putting them out on the streets if wie don't want them anymore), so we should take care of the problem we caused. But shooting a semi-wild animal with a gun, with the risk of only half-killing it or wound it and leave it to a slow and hurtful death is not worthy of a human being.
Sibylle
It's us who cause the problem (not caring for our cats, not neutering them properly or just putting them out on the streets if wie don't want them anymore), so we should take care of the problem we caused. But shooting a semi-wild animal with a gun, with the risk of only half-killing it or wound it and leave it to a slow and hurtful death is not worthy of a human being.
Sibylle
10-06-2005, 03:48 AM
GRRRR
The cats will rise up and descend upon their enemies in a furry tide of death!
MEOW!
DEATH BY HAIRBALL!
The cats will rise up and descend upon their enemies in a furry tide of death!
MEOW!
DEATH BY HAIRBALL!
12-26-2005, 06:02 AM
Rowrrr!