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I love the shoelace thing! That cracks me up!

And thanks for your offer! I really appreciate it!

You bet, I will call on you!

My conception of Ivor (the character I want to write about) is that he is a cipher to normative perception. But everything in his world-model in his head makes perfect sense. And he is puzzled, annoyed, and even angry, that the world is so illogical, so much nonsense.

And he wins. He beats the lottery four times in a row. He looks at "chaos" and sees pattern, and so saves the world from an asteroid impact.

The bottom-line message I want to express is that normative thinking isn't all it's cracked up to be. People on the margins of society might just be the most valuable of all. "Normal" people are the benificiaries of the "Abnormal" people.

Some say Einstein was autistic. Check out Isaac Newton. Great ideas, life-saving ideas, come from the really odd people in inexplicable ways.

In my education in mathematics and physics, I became fascinated by how wacky many of these people appeared to be. Just about every one of them had "issues". Yet today, their names are attached to theorems that make it possible to land on the Moon!

Yet today, we might label them with a "diagnosis". We might "treat" them. And where would we be? We'd be doing our laundry with rocks down by the river.
No. Let's not go to a gender issues forum...

That wasn't the point of me bringing up my personal situation. I wanted to say something about my sympathy with the issues of stereotyping and diagnoses.

I'm trying to break through to a higher level of trust. I'm trying to say something about marginalization, and that I know how that feels.
"sexuality and gender are linked, only a fool could deny that"

Check out the fools at http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic2789.htm

"The two terms sex and gender are often used interchangeably in the vernacular. However, in a medical and technically scientific sense, these words are not synonymous. Sex is defined by the gonads, or potential gonads, either phenotypically or genotypically. It is generally assigned at birth by external genital appearance. If an intersex condition is present, one sex is often chosen with the intention of making social interactions and rearing simpler. Gender, on the other hand, is defined by one's own identification as male, female, or intersex; gender is based on legal status, social interactions, public persona, personal experiences, and psychologic setting.

A person's sex is a primary state of anatomic or physiologic parameters. A person's gender is a conclusion reached in a broad sense when individual gender identity and gender role are expressed. An often-used phrase to point out the difference, while an oversimplification, has some merit when dealing with these definitions: sexual identity is in the perineum; gender identity is in the cerebrum. Increasingly, the more subjective sense of gender identity takes precedence in evaluating patient needs. In those instances where a discrepancy exists between sex and gender, compassion and empathy are essential to foster better understanding and an appropriate relationship between the physician and the patient.

Note that gender development and sexual development are not interchangeable terms. The sexual identity that emerges beyond childhood is very clearly a separate entity from gender identity. Aspects of physical sexual growth, eroticism, and eventual sexuality, although closely related to gender, should not necessarily be used to draw conclusions about a patient's gender definitions."

Hey, look, this is not about me. I would not presume to make pronouncements about autism or Asperger's. Don't worry about my issues. I am here to learn about autism and Asperger's. I am not here to hold forth on gender, sexuality, gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, or any of that crap.

Just don't worry about it. I'm interested in your world view, your sense of life, your experience.
The tree was a metaphor. It is a joking description of story structure.

I once was told by my therapist to knock off the metaphor crap and get to the point. I now think a new item should appear in DSM-IV. "Metaphorhiea" - the compulsive use of metaphor in interpersonal communication. That's my diagnosis of me.

Let me try to articulate the basic story premise.

Ivor is a medium-functioning autistic person. He has the ability to see patterns in numbers. His dad is an astronomer working on Near-Earth Orbit Objects. Ivor stims by reciting number sequences. His dad records these numbers, and finds that they fit the criteria established as random sequences. Ivor sees some of the numerical data describing trajectories of Near-Earth Objects. Ivor recites new numbers in these sequences. These conform to cleestial mechanical calculations for these objects. Well, almost. Ivor's numbers don't quite match up. Ivor's numbers predict a collision of a hefty asteroid with Earth. Ivor also gets hold of tables of Lottery winning numbers. Ivor's extensions of these sequences match new winning numbers.

Now what?
Whoa.

"Drama is life with the dull parts cut out" - Alfred Hitchcock.

There's a great book out there called "Story" by Robert McKee. It's not everything there is to say about story. But it's good. I liked it. And McKee was featured as a character in "Adapatation", a film starring Nicholas Cage.

Look, I'm not going to engage in a seminar, class, discussion, or any other discursion, into the art of writing.

I came to this board for two reasons: we have an Asperger's child in our household, and I am interested in telling a story in which the main character is autistic savant. How autistic? I don't know. How savant? That I know.

If you are so inclined, help me get the details of day-to-day frustrations of dealing with the normative world right from the point of view of one who has been diagnosed as autistic/Asperger's. That's all I'm asking.

Theory of Story is a vast subject. There's lot's of stuff out there on it. Google it. I did, and learned a lot. Some of it I thought was good, some was so much bushwah.
Exactly.

This whole "Rain Man" thing...

I saw that flick. What I came away with was that Raymond and his brother came to love each other. That's pretty much the message most folks came away with. It wasn't about autism or *** or savant. It was about people connecting.

It was about humans.
Yeah, I understand, I think.

I am beginning to see that metaphor is not a good way at all to try to say something on this board.

I need to be a lot more literal.

Let me spin out a little more in the way of characters.

Ivor - the son. George - the father. Kathleen - the mom.

George is the kind of person who can sit in the cold with a telescope, and look all night long at some celestial object. Kathleen is the kind of woman who wants a happy baby. Ivor likes to sit and rock and recite numbers.

Kathleen feels abandoned by her own child. George is happy to have him sit out on those cold nights. Ivor's behaviors make George laugh in delight. He has an intuitive understanding of Ivor's inner logic. Kathleen pushes for normative behavior. She doesn't get Ivor's sensibility.

Then there's the therapist. Help me out here. How stupid can a therapist be with respect to autism? Judging from what I've read so far, pretty damn stupid.

Now what drives the story forward is that George has the patience to listen to the numbers his son recites. George is the kind of person who can squat in a sling in a rain forest canopy for months, watching monkeys make eye contact, and cataloguing each eye-roll. He has the patience to decode his son's world. So he picks up on the whole number thing with Ivor.

So I ask the community: help me build a good Ivor.

A note: when I use the words "wacky" or "odd", those are value judgements from the normative perspective. Keep in mind that "normal" is a mathematical term. Nobody is normal. We are all wacky and odd. That's what makes us unique, and in my estimation, what makes people highly lovable.
The story is not really all about autism. It's about randomness. I need a vehicle (character) that can see pattern where others don't. I could have a character get hit in the head with a hammer as a child. See "The Dead Zone" by Stephen King. Child suffers head trauma, turns into political assassin. Great story.

Now you can all beat me up for using autism as a means to my story-telling end. But there are models out there that say that we are all savants, but something gets in the way in the case of NT's, while autistics do not develop this obstacle. I find that interesting.

I am also fascinated by, and want to talk about, different ways of thinking. And that much-needed answers come from unexpected quarters.

So you might be autistic, and not savant. How do you know? My feeling is that every person on this planet is creative. But something gets in the way. See "The Artist's Way".
First: Am I concerned that someone might steal the idea for my story? No. Not at all. Were I to worry about that sort of thing, I would be a very fearful, unhappy person.

For some info, if any are wondering, the article that gave me one of the ideas for the story:
http://www.centreforthemind.com/publicat...hmetic.cfm

There is also the case of Ramanujan, a mathematical prodigy. No one can say for sure whether he was autistic or not. He was a "prodigy".

As for whether George has Asperger's or not, that's a good idea for a conflict thread.

Brightman, is this the question you are referring to? "As much as I would love to answer this I can't help but wonder what people here will get out of helping you earn a living, if that is the goal of your conquest? "
I will address the "I can't help but wonder what people here will get out of helping you ..." part. Let us suppose that the story actually gets published in one form or another. Then "Thanks and Acknowledgements for Helping Me Understand..." would be in order, I think. Let me address  "the concern of what happens to those here who contributed to your work if you paint Autism in a bad light?" The bad light part is a subjective judgement on the part of readers. I have no control over what readers think. My intent is to make Ivor a sympathetic character, the protagonist in the story. It is a certainty that autistic people, like any other people, come in all shapes, sizes, and temperaments. It is also a certainty that bad things are going to happen to Ivor, and he is likely to not respond like Jesus in certain situations.
Let me give an example from my own perspective: http://www.glbtq.com/arts/transsexuality_film.html. Some get it way wrong, some get it right. And it does have consequences for people like me. Negative portraits up the murder rate for TS's.
Writers who actually do their homework do a more respectful and accurate job of portraying characters. So a lot of the quality of what I write about Ivor's autism depends on the quality of the information I get here, and from other persons who are diagnosed as autistic. I regard their stories as more accurate than any other sources.
Brightman, I wonder about your use of the word "conquest". Curious...
One thing that might make things a little clearer here... I, as a writer, do not write for the sake of money or fame. I write because I like writing. And I try to make the characters interesting. Interesting to me. I try to make them come alive and surprise me. This is not to say I am not interested in what happens to the work when I've more or less finished it. It's like having a child. A parent hopefully takes pleasure in the raising of the child, despite the difficulties of parenting. Once the child reaches a certain age, the parent hopes the child goes on to great things. Most of the time she doesn't. But the parent can be reasonably happy if the child makes her own way, and is happy if the kid doesn't wind up in jail or dead. And if someone says "Suzie is a great kid. You're a good mom." - well - that is a great happiness for a parent. But one thing I know, loving parents love to be around their kids, at every age. Same with a story for a writer.
So I hope that helps answer your question(s), Brightman.
You say: "You have this all wrong. I think you have some sexist misconceptions about parenthood. Firstly, writing is a far more self centered activity than caring for young human beings 24/7. Childcare is very hard work and goes completely unpaid. And, as a mother of three I am qualified to say that even loving parents do not necessarily love to be around their children. It can be a hellish lot of work to care for children. In fact, a large part of the time I'd rather be relaxing on a beach in Aruba...writing my novel."

Every simile/metaphor breaks down somewhere along the line.

But I'm not the only person who has drawn the this similarity. A quick google of "writing parent metaphor" turned this up:

http://www.writerswrite.com/journal/jun04/twilson.htm

How to Parent Your Book: Six Rules for Writers
By Tarn Wilson

Writers often use the metaphor that writing a book is like giving birth. In truth, writing a book is more like raising a child: both require endurance, intuition, and patience -- and that difficult, delicate balance of focused attention and letting go. Of course, there are no absolute rules for good parenting or writing, but I think six principles govern both.

Principle #1: Your growing book needs your time.

In the beginning, you may think that you are giving time to your book when you think about it often, discuss it with friends, and imagine the awards it will win and how you are going introduce it on talk shows. But your book is too young to care about talk shows. It wants your time. It wants you to sit down with it and give it your full concentration.

Although naming yourself a "writer" sounds glamorous, the actual work of writing can be as dreary and repetitive as diapers and messy feedings: the days the writing plods, the computer breaks, and you must throw out weeks of work. Worst of all, you may be regularly assailed by a sense of how unprepared you are for this work, by how little you know, by the fear that, in your ignorance, you will irreparably damage your burgeoning idea. But it is too late to send your book back; you must work anyway.

The decision to write a book requires the willingness to make sacrifices. As with a child, your writing needs you even on the days you are tired, depressed, angry, or frazzled. To do the job well, you may need to cut back on other commitments: your volunteer work, work schedule, social obligations. People understand that your children must be your priority: give your writing a similar value, so that other people's cajoling and guilting -- and your own desire for mindless distraction -- cannot sway you.

Principle #2: Your book needs quality attention

Your book is sensitive to your emotional state. Irritability, anxiety, or drama can disturb your book and cause it to lose vibrancy and confidence. On the other hand, when you are well-rested and well-fed, when you are exercising, praying, meditating, or doing whatever else you need do to be healthy, your book will feel more confident and able to take risks. Therefore, the time required to take taking good care of yourself is not a diversion, but a gift to your work.

Your book will feel safe and relaxed if it has some sense of structure and order. Like children, different books require a different balance, but most books benefit, especially when young, from predictability: familiar rituals, familiar places, an expected routine.

But if you always approach your book with a serious sense of duty, it will imitate you and become serious and dutiful. If you always hold your book to a strict schedule and high standards, it may shrink under the weight of your expectation. Or it will feel the need to perform for you and become artificial and contrived. Or, knowing that it will fail to please you, it will rebel and will refuse to work at all.

Your book needs to play. It gets tired of always being groomed for some future reward it cannot imagine. It would like to take some wild flights of fancy together -- to stretch your imaginations to the edge of absurd, to surprise yourselves, to laugh -- to get your fingers in the finger paint and slosh wide, crazy swaths all over the paper.

Of course, what you know, but must not tell your book, must not tell yourself, is that during this play, you will begin to see parts of your book's identity you had not recognized before: its rich imagination, its depth of character, its unique rhythms and obsessions. When you ease your expectations, your greed for a particular outcome and are fully present in the play, you may find the very center of the book, which had been eluding you.

The only kind of attention your book should not have to endure is abuse. It will suffer if attacked with accusations of failure or blame for your suffering. It does not deserve to carry your fear or self-loathing. It is young and innocent and did not do anything to harm you. Your burdens are yours, not the book's, and until you stop your attacks, your book will be oppressed. Fortunately, though, your book has a healthy resilience and strong will to live: even when you neglect it, abuse it, abuse yourself, it will be waiting patiently for you to recover yourself.

Principle #3: Don't ask from your book what is not its responsibility to give you.

Your book has its own identity which exists in relationship to you, but is not you. It has been called into the world with its own purpose, which you are to nurture, but which you may not fully discern. It is not the book's responsibility to fill what feels empty in you.

When your relationships are sour or your life feels meaningless and you ask your book to provide for you a sense of companionship and worth, your book will try too hard to please you and become tentative and self-conscious. Or knowing it will fail to meet all your needs, it will resist beginning or will be exhausted by the strain. Your book longs for your attention, but it does not want to be your only purpose; then you will need too much from it.

You cannot ask your book to give you status, make you money, gain you popularity, pad your resume, impress your friends, vindicate you to your parents, or advance your career. When it fails to do all these things, which it certainly will, it will feel heavy with shame which should not belong to it. Your book's only job is to find itself, to tell its story as truly and well as it can. Anything else is an unnecessary distraction and burden.

Surprisingly, your book may begin to assert an identity that is different from yours. It may have different values, interests, and priorities. It may have different politics or religious views. It may be more or less tolerant than you -- or angry or sarcastic or intellectual or funny. But the book is not you, so you do not need to make excuses or be embarrassed. Certainly, you can inform it with your core values of love, respect, truthtelling, but you must let it find its own way, its own voice and truth.

Your book does not want to be compared to other books. It does not mind learning from others, but it does not want to be in competition with them. It has its own purpose which cannot be usurped by another. You may have grand hopes for your book, but you must not be ashamed if your book has a humble career. Perhaps excerpts from your book will be splashed across the New York Times Review of Books or anthologized in a college reader, but it may have been called forth to touch just a small group of quiet people. Do not despair that you have been called to give them a gift: those quiet people in quiet homes are as important as any others.

Principle #4: Let your book mature at its own rate.

For some of us, a strict writing schedule shields our book from inevitable dramas and distractions. However, you should not try to force your book to grow faster than it is able. Your book has its own rate of maturing. If it matures much more slowly than its peers or siblings, you will need to be patient. Fear, competition, and ambition may cause you to try to accelerate the creative process. We all want our books to grow in neat, predictable stages and can feel unsettled when brilliant flashes of maturity are followed by pages of toddler-dribble. But every book has its own pacing and some have much more difficult childhoods than others.

Principle #5: Make sure your book keeps good company.

Be careful about to whom you expose your book and when. When your book is an infant, it needs to be surrounded only by encouragement and love, by people who love it for what it is, expect nothing from it, delight in its every burp and sign of blossoming. At this stage, criticism will only stunt its growth.

However, a book which never receives correction or direction is in danger of becoming sloppy, vague, and self-satisfied. So in addition to clearly recognizing the book's strengths and praising them regularly, you and other well-chosen critics must point out whatever is holding the book back from its fullest potential.

But the criticism it receives should be in direct relationship to its maturity. The older and more developed the book the stronger its structure and sense of identity, the easier it will be to discern which criticism is destructive and which brings the work to a higher level of clarity and beauty. At all stages, you must protect it from those who are envious, competitive, or just plain dull-minded.

Principle #6: You must let your book go.

There comes a point when your book will be grown and you will have to release it. You must plan for this time so you won't cling. The book must move from your home into the world without guilt and without a sense of responsibility for you.

At this point, you must recognize that your book has it own unique purpose, now separate from you. Although you can encourage and celebrate its successes, you must not ask it to validate you with awards, wealth, prestige. At the same time, you must not hide your book from risk because you are afraid for it, because you underestimate it, because you want to protect it, and therefore yourself, from rejection.

When your book leaves you, it is getting married to its readers. It is going to have an intimate relationship with someone you barely know, or don't know at all. You have shared something important and profound with the book -- its conception and growth, but your book will never again belong to you in that same exclusive way. You may feel empty and weepy, but what the book has given you, the humility and growth it has called forth from you, cannot be taken from you.


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**Tarn Wilson is a high school English teacher and a freelance writer. Her essays have appeared in the Christian Science Monitor, Inlands, and the anthology Hard Love: Writings on Intimacy and Violence published by the Queen of Swords Press. She contributes regularly to the website Spirituality.com. She also teaches adult courses in personal journaling, nature journaling, travel journaling, memoir, and creative writing.

So, Bamanda, give me a break....
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