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Do male asexual Aspies exist or is it females only?

Planet*Louise Wrote:
Men can be asexuals as much as women, and neurotype doesn't usually affect sexuality, so it's more than likely that male asexual aspies are about.


That isn't completely accurate Wink

Quick question:  How many of you actually know what it means to be "asexual"?

"Asexual" is a sexual orientation.  It does NOT mean "doesn't have sex, even if they want it".  It DOES mean "No sex drive WHATSOEVER".
It is probably one of the most frequently misunderstood, misapplied terms I know.

I know exactly 1 asexual in real life, and she is biologically female, not NT but not aspie, either.
I know three or four asexuals online, that I can think of off the top of my head, and they are male aspies.

It is not a common orientation, but from what I have seen it tends to overlap with neurodivergence of some kind, not always on the spectrum.  It also appears to have very little to do with gender, as (despite their biological sex differences) every one of the asexuals I've known has been neither masculine nor feminine, just sort of neutral.

skyblue1  Wrote:
with the social problems that Aspie males face, to many of us asexuality is completely logical.I would think that the percentage of Aspie males that are asexual is quite a bit higher, compared to asexual NT males. So neurotype has a lot to do with it.


I can't really see how social problems could lead to lack of sexual desire.

AlexSparks Wrote:
No, celibacy and asexuality are two different things. You can be celibate because you are asexual, or be asexual and not be celibate. You can also be celibate but be very sexual. Celibacy is a choice, asexuality is not.

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Bingo

Simply not having any chance to indulge your sexual desires does not mean you do not have them. A simple "test" for this is to just think if you've ever enjoyed looking at someone (i.e found them attractive). If you've honestly never found someone attractive (this includes people in person or celebrities etc) then you're asexual. Otherwise you're hetero/homo/bi. I'm grossly oversimplifying here of course, but that's it.

For myself, I can say that before having my first relationship I definitely was not asexual - I still had a very strong sex drive.

skyblue1  Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:

skyblue1  Wrote:
with the social problems that Aspie males face, to many of us asexuality is completely logical.I would think that the percentage of Aspie males that are asexual is quite a bit higher, compared to asexual NT males. So neurotype has a lot to do with it.


I can't really see how social problems could lead to lack of sexual desire.


Easy for you to say. You chose and obviously have a need for a relationship. Some of us do not choose this,and have no interest in a sexual life at all. I dare anyone to say there is something wrong with this. After all each to his/her own. I have probably said to much about me in the last year. I have said too many truths about me. I dont expect anyone to accept me. It has never happened before,why should it happen now. I will plod on alone by myself.


There's nothing wrong with being asexual, and I don't think I suggested there was. My point was that asexuality is not caused by social problems. If that was true, then we wouldn't see so many frustrated single aspies as they would have nothing to be frustrated about, not having the desire.

Better, but cruder, test (since you *can* be attracted aesthetically, rather than sexually):  If you ever get horny, masturbate, enjoy porn, etc, any one of those things; then you are not asexual.

Asexuals often experience romantic love, sometimes even marrying, they just don't have any sex drive or libido at all.  This doesn't mean they don't care about the opposite sex (or the same sex, as the case may be!).



....Look, it might clear up the confusion a bit more if you all go to Wikipedia right now and read the article on Asexual before commenting again at all.  ALL of you.  That's my suggestion.
OK, so I'm not a male so perhaps my tuppence worth isn't wanted here; but I'll givve it anyway (you just can't keep Granny down! Big Grin)

I'm pretty sure I had a sex-drive of sorts when I was in my late teens, although I cannot now recall what it felt like. In any case, it was pretty negligible compared to that of my female friends and I was celibate.

When I had a complete hysterectomy in my late thirties my sex-drive vanished completely. So I can look at someone and think that they are attractive (in an æsthetic sense), but have no desire whatever to have sex with them.

However, having just celebrated my 29th wedding anniversary last month, I am NOT celibate. Would I miss sex? No. I never think about it. I miss cues that my husband wants it because it is as far from my mind as sky-diving, abseiling or mining on Neptune so I've had to tell him to be a bit more obvious (which doesn't come easily to him, being Aspie too... Wink ) Do I mind having sex? No. Why would I? No more than I mind doing other things with and for my husband that he enjoys me doing, because I love him deeply. After all, I do not need to have a sock fetish to launder my husband's socks!

Celibacy can be a choice, or be imposed by circumstance; neither state tells you anything about the sexual orientation of the celibate person.

Asexuality is the lack of sex drive. It may or may not be accompanied by celibacy. When 'everyone is doing it' it can be hard for the asexual person to be believed, never mind respected, for their orientation. As to the prevalence, given the highly competitive nature of NT malehood I would be surprised if any of them would admit to it. In my experience Neurodiverse males have always been better at expressing their deeper feelings and admitting anything that might be construed as a 'weakness'.

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
Asexuality is the lack of sex drive. It may or may not be accompanied by celibacy. When 'everyone is doing it' it can be hard for the asexual person to be believed, never mind respected, for their orientation. As to the prevalence, given the highly competitive nature of NT malehood I would be surprised if any of them would admit to it. In my experience Neurodiverse males have always been better at expressing their deeper feelings and admitting anything that might be construed as a 'weakness'.


For some reason i'm reminded of when I used to watch Startrek in my parent's house and wondered why my father and brother felt the need to comment every episode about how attractive some of the female characters were.

skyblue1  Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:

AlexSparks Wrote:
No, celibacy and asexuality are two different things. You can be celibate because you are asexual, or be asexual and not be celibate. You can also be celibate but be very sexual. Celibacy is a choice, asexuality is not.

:>


Bingo

Simply not having any chance to indulge your sexual desires does not mean you do not have them. A simple "test" for this is to just think if you've ever enjoyed looking at someone (i.e found them attractive). If you've honestly never found someone attractive (this includes people in person or celebrities etc) then you're asexual. Otherwise you're hetero/homo/bi. I'm grossly oversimplifying here of course, but that's it.

For myself, I can say that before having my first relationship I definitely was not asexual - I still had a very strong sex drive.


The second sentence of your second paragraph.is in my opinion a warped way of looking at this subject. I look at women all the time,find them attractive.  But I have no desire to have sex with them. Call it what you wish ,I have NO sexual drive and that makes me asexual.

I respect yours and AlexSparks veiwpoint on this. But in much the same way a non-autist does not understand autism. I will venture to say that a heterosexual ,especially a heterosexual male would not have a clue to what I am talking about. And yes my lack of sexuality is a direct result of my enviroment and my lack of enjoyment in being around people.It doesnt mean I will never be in love(never say never),It is the way I am at this point in time.


I should have clarified that I meant "attractive sexually" or "arousing". A crude way to evaluate this is with physical responses, erections in males and moistening of the vagina in females, accompanied by increased pulse etc.

Nice and simple definition on this page:
http://www.asexuality.org/home/
Are the men who say they are asexual unable to become sexually aroused (i.e. get 'hard'). I don't have sex because I don't like the idea of physical closeness. I am not bothered about having sex, but I do get aroused alot. I find it hard to believe that asexual men never get aroused.

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robexib Wrote:
Asexuals?

ME! Tongue


Me too! Tongue

Very much agreed robexib!

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skyblue1  Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
Nice and simple definition on this page:
http://www.asexuality.org/home/


Yes I am already a member


perhaps I should join!

I think I could be described as asexual because I don't feel sexual attraction to other people, but I do enjoy masturbation. Seems a much better way to describe myself. I am interested in men and women, but never sexually. So I would say I am an asexual aspie male.
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