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orangeismyaura

NT women don't get me.   they think I am rude when they come over, they think I am rude when I don't go to their 'parties'.  they think there is something wrong with my when I have no expression on my face.  They are too nosy/in my business/trivial.  BLAH!  I get along SOOO much better with guys, just into more guy type things I guess.  Who needs tuperwear anyway????

orangeismyaura

Keez, I don't know how to answer that.  I guess I just chat with them?? I am married, for 3 and 1/2 years, and I have BEEN with him for 10 years since I was 17. So it's been a LONG time since I have thought about whether or not the guy has other intentions other than just chatting with me.  I have a LOT of guy interests.  I love watching the UFC, and WWE(I know it's fake, but it's entertaining....that's the point), I love to watch basketball(whoo hoo yay celtics!!!), and some football depending on my mood, I play video games.  NOW women can do all of this stuff to OBVIOUSLY, but it's more common in men so that's who I get along with more.  The only girly thing I like to do is shop for purses.  I have an OBSESSION with purses with shiney stuff all over them.

Natalie Wrote:

ocampo Wrote:
Guys also say I'm the coolest woman they've met 'because you don't do all that squealing sh*t'.

I almost pissed myself laughing when I read that. It's so true... The high-pitched squealing noise that emanates from large groups of super-girly NT teenagers in shopping malls is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

That kind of thing used to bug me at school and college. I never understood why they would want to squeal and act silly. They probably thought I was too serious though.

orangeismyaura

squealing is unnessessary, and so is saying OH MY GAWD!!!!!!!!!!! over and over again.
Allow me just to state that as an Aspie woman I am most certainly not an NT man.
I think all the things you people are listing aren't developmental "male traits", but the result of what happens when a female isn't receptive to the social cues that children get that urge them to fit into a gender stereotype.
I was the only girl in my school who could pick up canetoads.
Yes, the biggest canetoads grow to be about the size of a dinner plate but most stop at around 6-7 inches long. They are big and warty and if handled without care, will secrete poison from glands in their shoulders. I never got any that did that though.

I was also called upon to remove frogs from the girls' toilets because even big girls used to run around screaming hysterically.

Pakrat Wrote:
I was the only girl in my school who could pick up canetoads.


hmm... Can't pick up canetoads -- but mostly because there aren't any within cooee of where I live. hehe.

Sorry couldn't resist.

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I have heard of AS as being described as "Extreme maleness" and wondered exactly where such a definition would place the female of the species.

There's an interesting experiment in androgyny -- if anyone's interested. Apparently the closer in length your index and ring fingers are, the more androgynous you are. Strange, but it works.

Me, I kind of like some of the stuff that might be considered "girly". y'know I wasn't exactly avoiding it although when I was younger, dolls creeped me out. Thinking about it, they're still quite creepy! Especially Cupies. I hate Cupies.

*shudder*

But still even though I didn't mind Barbie or Rainbow Brite, I liked a bit of Heman and Voltron too. (Possibly more.) She-ra isn't so bad, either, although He-Man's better! hehe. I dunno I also think that for girls, there is less pressure to conform to gender-types than what there used to be. And certainly less pressure than what there is for boys.

zoey Wrote:

Callista Wrote:
I think all the things you people are listing aren't developmental "male traits", but the result of what happens when a female isn't receptive to the social cues that children get that urge them to fit into a gender stereotype.


  I would probably have to agree with Callista here.  One of my relatives is NT but raised without gender bias.  He is 15 and occasionally wears a skirt for social occasions, although he usually wears his spikes as well.

Wow... I have to ask how they managed that! The cues are everywhere; even in the ways people perceive unborn children and infants! (Seriously. A fussy female baby is considered to be temperamental, a fussy male baby is considered to be vigorous... It goes way past pink and blue.)

micgrace Wrote:
Male aspie perfer NT women or NT women prefer male aspie. Don't think you can separate the two. I must say that appears to be the case, at least with regards to myself. Never been able to get along with NT males. I have no interest in football or other things that NT males are "supposed" to do or like. Then maybe it is because I can talk on different topics. And tend to have a more feminine oulook than most. But I can disguise this to fit into a male role.


You mean for friendship or romantically?
Because personally, I prefer aspies for both. I've never been interested in the stereotypical male pursuits - going to the pub, football, <insert other sports here> etc. I also tend to find NT women are on average more gossipy and not as interesting to talk to.

Something slightly amusing: amongst male geeks, one of the largest sex symbols is the FreeBSD girl.

Callista Wrote:

zoey Wrote:

Callista Wrote:
I think all the things you people are listing aren't developmental "male traits", but the result of what happens when a female isn't receptive to the social cues that children get that urge them to fit into a gender stereotype.


  I would probably have to agree with Callista here.  One of my relatives is NT but raised without gender bias.  He is 15 and occasionally wears a skirt for social occasions, although he usually wears his spikes as well.

Wow... I have to ask how they managed that! The cues are everywhere; even in the ways people perceive unborn children and infants! (Seriously. A fussy female baby is considered to be temperamental, a fussy male baby is considered to be vigorous... It goes way past pink and blue.)


If they turned up to a social event in a skirt and they're male, they're definitely not neurologically typical

Does a kilt count as a skirt?
What frustrates me is that, even though I have more in common with NT males than with NT females (mostly because the subjects I'm interested in are stereotypically male--math, science, gaming, medicine, fantasy/sci-fi), most NT males don't seem to understand that I would prefer friendship to romance. Somehow society has taught them that a man cannot legitimately be friends with a woman without there being some sort of sexual tension between them. Even when I tell them i'm asexual, I still have to back off whenever they get girlfriends, because the female usually feels at least subconsciously threatened, and the male often feels at least somewhat guilty. (This is my guess; I don't pick up peoples' feelings very well.) It is frustrating not to be able to try to make friends with people who are interested in what I'm interested in nearly as much as I would like, simply because most of them are the "wrong" gender, and gender stereotyping gets in the way.
Yes, for some reason, other women often don't like me or at least feel uneasy around me. I don't seem to fit into any particular mould of womanhood.
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