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Kev Wrote:

Amy Wrote:
Hi Kev, take a look at this site -
http://users.1st.net/cibra/

It seems that ABA therapists have tried to clean up their act and now many say that they never use aversives. However there are huge amounts of money to be earned, some parents go greatly into debt to pay for the therapy, $5000 a month sometimes :shock:

I have spoken to parents whose kids have suffered from ABA therapy recently, and some parents groups like to potray that if a child does NOT recieve ABA then they will remain LFA, speechless and dependant forever.


Yikes. Thats pretty uncomfortable reading. Thanks for posting that Amy.


I have to say, for the people promoting ABA. I don't really feel I should include the parents, they might be conned into sending their kids to these programs, and just not know any better.

They're no better than Nazis.

Having a full time job and being an NT "clone" doesn't even suit many of the higher functioning people. Also, if there aren't enough jobs to go around even for people with no disabilities, how on earth are people with disabilities even going to get a look-in? Seems rather silly to me.

Bonnie Ventura Wrote:

jerrynewport Wrote:
I got a college diploma with no clue what to do with it. I couldn't make it through interviews and had no useful help.


Same here.  When I graduated, I had no idea that the interviewers were going to discriminate against me because of my voice and body language.   I didn't know what was going on.

I'm not sure if the reason my parents didn't tell me was because they didn't know, or didn't want to upset me, or just thought I didn't need to work anyway because I was female.

This certainly strikes a chord. Despite being high enough functioning to cope with school without any interventions, I definitely needed assistance with finding work. Were I looking for my first job nowadays, I would not cope unless placed with an employment agency specialising in disabilities.

This might sound negative but it is the truth.

I think Temple is arrogant based on what I have read..........filthy rich and without a clue as to what it is really like out there.
^ That might an over exaggeration. I don't know much about Grandin...but we shouldn't make over assumtions

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Bonnie Ventura Wrote:

jerrynewport Wrote:
I got a college diploma with no clue what to do with it. I couldn't make it through interviews and had no useful help.


Same here.  When I graduated, I had no idea that the interviewers were going to discriminate against me because of my voice and body language.   I didn't know what was going on.

I'm not sure if the reason my parents didn't tell me was because they didn't know, or didn't want to upset me, or just thought I didn't need to work anyway because I was female.

This certainly strikes a chord. Despite being high enough functioning to cope with school without any interventions, I definitely needed assistance with finding work. Were I looking for my first job nowadays, I would not cope unless placed with an employment agency specialising in disabilities.

This might sound negative but it is the truth.


It doesn't sound negative. It is taking care of what you think will help the most. NO shame in that.

BardWolf Wrote:
^ That might an over exaggeration. I don't know much about Grandin...but we shouldn't make over assumtions


I have read a lot about her. I was more interested in the struggles of my own grandmother who had autism........but didn't have a family full of money to help through. She was in and out of mental hospitals back than and forced into marriage to a man she didn't love all because her dad wanted to make sure she was taken care of. Her husband was seen as the kind of man who would not be insensitive to my granny. Autism was just the family secret noone talked about but we just knew. Granny saw and thought in pictures. She had quite a lot of abuse in her life. Including being left by so-called friends alone in the big city.......far from home. My parents were brutal to her as well. When Granny called them Chicago to say she was stranded, my dad told her to find her own goddam way home. Mind you we were all in New York.

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