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The incredible drama of this thread is, well, funny.  I mean, like in the...whaaat was in your cereal bowl this morning...kind of funny.  

Illusion, I guess, did not get the point of the last moderator's statement regarding this type of post.

Report button applied.  

ethereal Wrote:
I don't find it funny.  I find it very sad that people have to resort to a barrage of caustic remarks/insults.  It only escalates the hatred, and the differences don't go away.


Actually the post that I was quoting was rather humorous, to me.  I respect that you do not feel the same.  

Yes, it is really too bad that it needs to get that way.  I wish it did not.  If there was a moderator on all the time, it would be different.  But there is not.  

And people do get emotional.  And they need to express that.  Who am I to judge them for it?

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
Your attitude and that of your liberal comrades makes any sort of open debate impossible because you silence every attempt with a load of insults and noise. For people who enjoy an open debate and hate mindless nodding, that's quite a serious issue.


Well, unless you missed it, you are still talking, so the whole silencing thing is not working.  I mean, we really did try....but the reality is, the only members of the forum that can silence people are Administrators.  

Liberal comrades.  I want a hat!

alectrum Wrote:
(I accuse both korrigan and atypical of this because they play to thier strengths in this area out of ignorence of it's inappropriateness in straight non emotions and strictly ivory tower debates),


You can accuse me of whatever, as I have been posting on this thread, but atypical has not even been involved at all, unless I missed something.  

I may dislike her and all that, but to just bring her name into this....not nice.

As an aside, there will never be debate here without emotion.  That is just not going to happen.  Strictly logical...rational...not going to occur.  That is just not the way a forum works, as you are obviously seeing.

Ethel Wrote:
Well, looks like banning Lucie isn't going to stop this place falling apart.


Two things:

1)  My husband would note that many Aspies have a difficult time with communication.  So it only stands to reason that the forum has a difficult time with communication.  (Actually he has noted this, and that is why he will not post on said forum.)

2)  There is always a pain in the ***.  Happens at work too.  There will always be someone to fill that role.  And then, when that person finally moves on, someone else will come along and fill the vacuum of space.  

By the way atypical, you might read on a little futher in the thread where I objected to you being added into that particular tirade.  Like you or not, there was no reason for you to be brought into that.  

I may disagree with portions of your very long post (and yes, I read it all) but there is no point in telling you things you already know.
Everytime I see this thread title come up, I have to laugh.  It really does sound dramatic.

atypical Wrote:

EvilZakkie Wrote:
Ah, good. I didn't think this would happen so quickly - this way, he can't make the claim that he wasn't aware of the forum rules.

Report will be written and submitted today.



AGainst whom? Many folks on here have been quite liberal with language and misquoting.  I did not see anything at all clear here. I hope you'll look more clearly for intent.


There has been much use of language that is not exactly appropriate.  That I agree with.  But as it has just been said, you can say a lot using flowery politically correct words as well.  Things much worse than swear words.

There was no misquoting that I saw.  

The post from EvilZakkie, and I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong, was regarding the posts that Illusion made, and was warned twice about, and now made again.  

My dog decided this thread needed some shaking up
Sorry EZ! I should not have assumed that the statements in his first post were short-hand referring back to what he had put in the other threads if he hadn't put links to them!

Would you prefer I re-quote the whole OP every time I try to find out whether he can actually back his assertions with the rationality he claims to possess?

And I would like to point out his neuro-supremacy in the first post too - using 'NT' or 'border-line NT' as reasons why people should not be allowed to post.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
A few days ago, I started this thread in an attempt to promote mutual respect and tolerance and to get an idea how tolerant people on this site really are. I noticed that those who tend to preach tolerance all the time often are intolerant hatemongers themselves with regards to people who don't share their views.

The end result of this thread only confirmed the latter. In spite of my call for tolerance, I was being called all kinds of names by a bunch of flaming liberals who behaved in the most obnoxious and intolerant way, while they - ironicly - accused me of intolerance. The reason for this apparently is my stating that :
* ) homosexuality is a deviance
* ) multi-culturalism is bunk
* ) wicca is bunk

All of these are statements for which I can provide rational arguments. None of these are based on prejudice and none of these were intended to offend anyone. Nevertheless, when I made either of these statements it felt like I just opened the gates of hell. Some people out here go as far as not even allowing another person to say that it's utter rubbish to believe the world was created in seven days. Go figure !

It wasn't just this one thread, by the way. In this thread, it was exactly alike. It shocked me to see how this bunch of arrogant and narrowminded flaming liberals just kept shouting one insult after another and EvilZakkie even defended them. In fact, he accused me of "racism" and "homophobia" too while ignoring the entire tantrum of insults in my direction and while ignoring the fact that I made several statements that cannot be reconciled with racism and homophobia by any means. I've rarely never seen such an obvious double standard among the moderator of a forum.

Nevertheless, various members contacted me via PM with kind words of support and statements that this is not the first time these people have been behaving in such a way. According to them, I'm not nearly the first victim of their terror and they've been screwing up the atmosphere at this forum for quite some time. Considering various of these people are NT or borderline NT, that makes it even more questionable. These folks behavior is almost identical to that of the bullies many of us had to face in high school and AFF should not be a place where such behavior is tolerated.

I thought that AFF was a place by AS people for AS people, but with all the obnoxious NT-like behavior this place is anything but what I expected. Considering I'm not the only AS who feels that way, I'd like to see this issue openly discussed.

I added an anonymous poll so those who agree with me can voice their opinion without any risk of repercussions.

atypical Wrote:
Tigger, what thread was this: And I would like to point out his neuro-supremacy in the first post too - using 'NT' or 'border-line NT' as reasons why people should not be allowed to post."


This thread; the first post - which I quoted in full just above yours.

Here it is again, with the words highlighted:

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
A few days ago, I started this thread in an attempt to promote mutual respect and tolerance and to get an idea how tolerant people on this site really are. I noticed that those who tend to preach tolerance all the time often are intolerant hatemongers themselves with regards to people who don't share their views.

The end result of this thread only confirmed the latter. In spite of my call for tolerance, I was being called all kinds of names by a bunch of flaming liberals who behaved in the most obnoxious and intolerant way, while they - ironicly - accused me of intolerance. The reason for this apparently is my stating that :
* ) homosexuality is a deviance
* ) multi-culturalism is bunk
* ) wicca is bunk

All of these are statements for which I can provide rational arguments. None of these are based on prejudice and none of these were intended to offend anyone. Nevertheless, when I made either of these statements it felt like I just opened the gates of hell. Some people out here go as far as not even allowing another person to say that it's utter rubbish to believe the world was created in seven days. Go figure !

It wasn't just this one thread, by the way. In this thread, it was exactly alike. It shocked me to see how this bunch of arrogant and narrowminded flaming liberals just kept shouting one insult after another and EvilZakkie even defended them. In fact, he accused me of "racism" and "homophobia" too while ignoring the entire tantrum of insults in my direction and while ignoring the fact that I made several statements that cannot be reconciled with racism and homophobia by any means. I've rarely never seen such an obvious double standard among the moderator of a forum.

Nevertheless, various members contacted me via PM with kind words of support and statements that this is not the first time these people have been behaving in such a way. According to them, I'm not nearly the first victim of their terror and they've been screwing up the atmosphere at this forum for quite some time. Considering various of these people are NT or borderline NT, that makes it even more questionable. These folks behavior is almost identical to that of the bullies many of us had to face in high school and AFF should not be a place where such behavior is tolerated.

I thought that AFF was a place by AS people for AS people, but with all the obnoxious NT-like behavior this place is anything but what I expected.
Considering I'm not the only AS who feels that way, I'd like to see this issue openly discussed.

I added an anonymous poll so those who agree with me can voice their opinion without any risk of repercussions.

Literally speaking, "homophobia" means fear of the same!
Ice cream! Ewe's cream!

Whale's Cream, for I scream!
Ooh! Apology!! Where?!

Max the Bear Wrote:

Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:

Ziyaret? Yes Max I have been flaming him at I2 (along with most) and suggested his anger (yes still...does he know how to get over it?) at you may be self-loathing against gay men. Guess what? Yup Ziyaret finally came out of the closet.


Oh, god.

As inevitable as that was, it nauseates me to have him in the club.

I may have to go straight...


First ocampo, now you - what's been going on these last few days? Tongue

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