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Ethel

There are people here who are married or in long-term relationships - to other Aspies, to people with cousin conditions like ADHD, and to neurotypical people - so it's certainly possible.

Hopefully one of them will be along soon... I ain't the person you want for romantic advice.
Yes, it's possible. I have been married to my Aspie hubby for twenty eight years, and my older three children are all in relationships. Even the younger two (fifteen) have friends who are girls.

There are very few prerequisites.

First, you need to like yourself. If you don't, people will think "If he doesn't even like himself, why should we like him?"

Then you need to like other people. Then other people think "He likes me! That's nice - I like him!"

Once you have acquaintances you start making friends. When you have acquaintances, people see you are popular and they are more likely to want to be your friend.

The reason I am talking about friendship is because you need to be able to cope with and enjoy being ordinary friends before you can become someone's boyfriend.

And you need to be able to enjoy the company of female humans without thinking of sex all the time! Wink

ocampo Wrote:
So she just likes you to talk to her about anything? And make her feel like her opinions matter? But what if she's talking a load of crap?

So... women want you to listen to them. How do you make them feel like you're listening? I ask her to tell me about her day, and she starts getting crappy that I'm not talking about mine. But I'm showing her interest in what she's doing. Interest in her.

*thumps head* I don't understand. I renounce lesbianism.


Oh, don't! The males of this household just cheered loudly enough for you to hear it in Scotland!

micgrace Wrote:
Appreciated, thats a hard one. Damned if you do damned if you don't. As far as I can work out spend endless hours talking in inane conversation about nothing in particular. Then again, a comment like "where were you?" is loaded. The simple answer is the wrong answer (work). Hence a problem. read "I was lonely and I needed you call me I ned someone to talk to"

Its that special social communication. Inane conversation over a dinner, out and about, it doesn't matter where. always conversation. Anything else pales into insignificance. Gifts? No. Night out? No. D & M about nothing in particular is the way.

But doesn't she realise you could get into trouble at work if you make too many personal calls? Surely she must have some friends she could talk to during the day. She seems a bit needy.

Then again, even though I'm a female - I think I have more of a male brain so much of what other women do mystifies me too.

Ethel

So, we have consensus: nobody here gets women.  Even the women.  Smile

micgrace Wrote:

Ethel Wrote:
So, we have consensus: nobody here gets women.  Even the women.  Smile

Especially the women. Its a social thing. I know from what my wife has said to me about social relationships women are the cruelest of all when it comes to social isolation of others. especially at school.

They sure are!

Ethel

Word.

ocampo Wrote:
So she just likes you to talk to her about anything? And make her feel like her opinions matter? But what if she's talking a load of crap?

So... women want you to listen to them. How do you make them feel like you're listening? I ask her to tell me about her day, and she starts getting crappy that I'm not talking about mine. But I'm showing her interest in what she's doing. Interest in her.

*thumps head* I don't understand. I renounce lesbianism.


You're not the only one...when I was about 10, in notice of these ridiculous things about women, after my dad was telling us it's okay if we happened to be lesbian, and I said, "oh, don't worry about that - I could never be with a woman, because they're way too confusing!"

D'oh!

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micgrace Wrote:
I've been told that before by girlfriends, let's be friends. The real meaning is get lost I hope I don't see you again. Not possible to wind back to a friendship mode. Doesn't work.

QFT. It basically means "I can go out with anybody I please but I will graciously give you a few scraps of my time when I don't have a steady and you don't get to complain. However, if you find another partner, I get to whinge about how short a time it took to get over me". Better to keep some of your pride intact and say, let's just go our separate ways and that's that.

Perhaps after a few months or years, you can salvage a bit of a friendship but you have to let yourself heal first if you were seriously romantically involved.

micgrace Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Remind her who pays for the Internet service, and suggest she get her own machine.

End of story.  At least in my non-parental mind.

And yes did try that line of reasoning once and had to dodge the book coming my way. Teenage girls even more difficult to understand.


Oh yes!!!!

Luckily my daughter is well past her teens now, but I still reckon she was more of a handful than her four brothers put together! Tongue

micgrace Wrote:
I'd say MY rule of thumb to determine meaning. In a sentence, 5% spoken, 20 % voice inflection, 25% eye contact, 50% body language.


Damn. That means I'm missing/misinterpreting 95% of what someone is 'saying'.

No wonder I have practically no friends off the spectrum.

Besides the multiple interpretations of the conversation you are actually trying to concentrate on, if you add the background (auditory: other conversations, music, passing vehicles, distant sirens, dogs barking, bird calls etc.; visual: passers-by, flickering lights, all sorts of intersting stuff in interesting colours etc.) and realise that we cannot passively filter any of it out - it makes melt-downs much more understandable!
You've got a point, Pakrat. If you can shove the kids into the yard for an hour round about that time of day, you might actually solve a lot of marital problems... all you'd have to do is push dinner back about an hour. But I guess the workaholics would use the time to get the household chores done or something.
Yes, it takes a lot of energy and self control even for NT children to keep it all together during the day. It would be so much more challenging for Aspie and ADHD children so it's no wonder they start to come unglued once they are home.
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