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atypical Wrote:
Now I see how this will look - I started this post an hour ago and got sidetracked - playing - I started the post and did not read any others.


How will it look?  Be specific, tell us. I am sure everyone wants to know.  No subtle innuendos and hinting.  Be right out with it.  HOW WILL IT LOOK?

IlluSionS667 Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
Spellcheck and paragraphs are your friend.


* ) Not everyone here is a native English speaker ( I am not, for example )

* ) Not everyone has several hours a day to spend on an Internet forum ( I definitely don't, most of the time )


I know you and atypical don't like one another, but such childish remarks (it is regarded as poor manners when you criticise a person's spelling on an Internet forum) tend to illustrate a closed mind, especially when not accompanied by any criticism contentwise as is the case here.


She is a native English Speaker who continues to not spellcheck or use paragraphs in her posts, making them nearly illegible.  It is annoying.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
She is a native English Speaker who continues to not spellcheck or use paragraphs in her posts, making them nearly illegible.  It is annoying.


Maybe that's part of her Aspie's. All of us experience it differently. You just assume that she's more lazy than you and that assumption might be completely wrong.


There is a lot of history here IlluSionS667.  

She is not an Aspie.  

She can spell check and review her posts just the same as anyone else.  

IlluSionS667 Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
There is a lot of history here IlluSionS667.  

She is not an Aspie.


Does she say so herself or is that your opinion of her? Just because she received no official diagnosis, that doesn't mean she isn't Aspie.


She has said so herself.  I really do not care.  However, being Aspie is not an excuse for lack of spell checking and/or correct paragraphs.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
She can spell check and review her posts just the same as anyone else.


Not everyone is good at language, including their own. Deal with it....


Um, nope.  I have no need to "deal with it."  But thanks for your thoughts!

Illusion, I have to disagree with your blaming closemindedness on the government.  It seems to me that this is rather the reality of the human condition, to be more accepting of the beliefs and values one is exposed to, and to distrust the alien.  Our various governments could be doing more to combat this, but I don't think any of them are actively encouraging it.

Nazism and Fascism are both really hard to nail down theoretically, but both have been shown as deplorable in practice.  And Nazism is mostly identified with Hitler's personal beliefs, which are not by any means defensible.

Also, statements about the 'average NT' are usually better replaced with 'the average person, because the two terms mean effectively the same thing and I don't think anyone ever self-identifies as 'the average person' so you'll avoid offending people.
Fascism is different from racism, Fascism is a dangerous philosophy/socio-economic system based on ultranationalism.  The Italian version isn't actually all that racist (they harbored Jews during the holocaust despite being allied to germany.)

Lestat Wrote:
If there is a state of war, those making war against us must be understood to be stopped, but we cannot afford to try to understand them to a level that becomes sympathy for them, at the end of the day, they are still combatants, and should be afforded no quarter.


I am not commenting on the rest of the post either way, but that, Lestat, is gooood.

Ethel Wrote:

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Do you still treat them with respect of not?


I do not treat people with respect when they launch themselves out at me from the internet demanding I answer their questions.  A few manners would go a long way, Illusion.

For the record, I do NOT tolerate many people... people like child abusers, drug pushers, welfare cheats, animal torturers, paedophiles, and random strangers who hit me up for favours the moment they find out what I do for a living.  Being "tolerant", or other concepts like "nice" or "sweet" does NOT mean becoming a doormat for arseholes.


This made me think of a TV show I watched last night, called 30 days.  The show is about learning the opposite of your views, basically.

The show was about a conservative Mormon Mom who went to live with a gay couple who had adopted 4 kids from foster care.  This Mormon Mom believes that gay people should never be able to adopt children, ever.

The gay couple believe that she has a right to her opinion,  but that when the opinion goes past the point of herself and restricts others, that is when the buck needs to stop.  

She believes that she is right, and that children should never be able to be in a gay home, even children who are in foster care or group homes.  

I respect that you have your opinion.  However, when your opinions begin to restrict my way of life (noting that my way of life is not harmful to others) they are no longer worthy of my respect.  They are only worthy of my scorn.    

Ethel Wrote:
This is a bit of a sore point with me.  I'll try to say something I think is correct - about tolerance, about peace, about whatever - and piss someone off because I do so in a blunt, direct, Aspie way, whereas other people can dress up their nasty supremacist views in a veil of flowery language and pretty words and expect it to go by unchallenged.  I'm actually more interested in WHAT is being said, than HOW it's being said.


I am not sure if I am agreeing or disagreeing here.  I have major issues with how things are said if they are not clear.  I hate it when people are unclear as a tactic to hide their actual intent, to muddle things so they are not recognizable as what is actually being said.  

Am I agreeing or disagreeing?  LOL!

Ethel Wrote:
I think we agree.

Take "autistic people were created for a higher Spiritual purpose" or "autistic people are the next step in evolution" or any other vague blanket statement that comes around every so often.  They're all dressed up like spiritual enlightenment or science, but once soaked in paint stripper it basically comes down to "Autistic people are superior".


It was something my mother-in-law used to do.  These half-assed, convoluted statements, that are barely decipherable.  But somewhere in there, there was an insult.  You can just tell.  LOL!

And I know what you mean and the threads you are referring to.  I do not go for the "Aspie for a Higher Purpose" or "Aspies are Superior" thing, you know I do not.  I do enjoy reading posts from one of the people that have said that though, as they are often very interesting, and I see the world from a very different viewpoint.

I assume that everyone has already used the magic "R" button?  Hm?

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
You're absolutely right about the fact that my friends in life can just me on how I behave while people out here can only judge by what a person says. That's exactly why I object so much to all these people here making one assumption after another about what a despicable monster I supposebly am. If they knew me in real life, they'd know I can be quite charming and I wouldn't even hurt a fly. It's their prejudice that somehow triggers them to make all sort of assumptions because they do not read what I'm saying but what they think I'm saying.


Because it is really EVERYONE ELSE's fault, right?  It could certainly not be YOUR FAULT that the words and ideas that come flying out of your mouth are OFFENSIVE and NOT WELCOME HERE.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
Because it is really EVERYONE ELSE's fault, right?  It could certainly not be YOUR FAULT that the words and ideas that come flying out of your mouth are OFFENSIVE and NOT WELCOME HERE.


If what I'm saying is offensive to you, it's probably because you know it is true. Like I said before, people tend to be most offended by what they know to be true but are not willing to admit for themselves....;


I am sorry, I must have missed the HUGE LINE of people on this forum who are standing right next to you and supporting you.  My point, in case you missed it, is that, YOUR OFFENSIVE WORDS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.  Did you miss that formal warning from EvilZakkie?  It was clear and was from a moderator.  I suggest you heed it.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
If your condescending and explicitly offensive behavior is considered an accepted standard while I'm not even allowed to voice me honest opinion frankly, then this community is not what I'm looking for anyway.


Again, I think I said this before, if the community is not what you are looking for, and I can assure you we are not looking for you, then you really should move on.  Post haste.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
I'm not the one continuously offending others. Again : if you take my words as offensive, then that's probably because you just can't handle the truth.


All I can hear is Jack Nicholson saying "You can't handle the truth!" from "A Few Good Men" LOL!  

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