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But naturally, a child is not going to heed the 18+ warning, and is still going to google search for the site anyway, so it really makes no difference whether the link is there or not (I acknowledge that you have to do this though, Amy).  I think people in government, and probably the vast majority of adults, forgets what it's like to be a kid, how they think, what they think about, and just how 'innocent' their precious little angels(:twistedSmile are, whether they have internet access or not.

Good luck waiting for any government to become more open-minded, I can't see it happening in the next few thousand years.

As for the original topic... it's awful to see how ignorant or simply stupid people can be.
You mean people who've orbited the sun less than 18 times have sexual feelings??  :shock:  :razz:  You'd have to have a sick mind to even conceptualize such a.... a, a, a disgusting thought!  (*excessive sarcasm*)

Yep, many adults seem to develop a weird kind of senility in regards to childhood, no wonder kids turn into screwed up adults.  Ohhh, but they're screwed up by the exposure, not the repression...

The things that gets me is that (in Australia at least) it is recomended that people under 15 be accompanied by an adult to movies and programs rated 'PG'.  So it is 'recommended' that a fourteen year should watch Harry Potter or The Simpsons with 'parental guidance'.  And Lord of the Rings is recommended only for people 15 and over.  People who work as censors must have had extremely traumatic and repressed childhoods...
I agree, Insolectual.  

There's a big difference between sexual expression of children and sexual exploitation of children by adults.  How is the law on porn being for over 18's related to children being exploited in porn?  I guess the law doesn't make much difference, because all boys look at porn anyway.  The law is just a sort of sad, ironic anachronism, really.
Children have no need for porn. Most adults have no need for it either. I regard porn as like gambling, illicit drugs, sport and organised religion. If all of these things disappeared overnight the world would be a better place.

Dreamer Wrote:
Amy, I'm still not sure what point you're trying to make.  

Speaking personally, my sex drive was highest at about age 13, and I had sexual interest many years before that..


Really

I  remember saying something about me at 15. And you were so disgusted and outraged.  very intolerant if not the same as you exactly

Well look I do not think teenagers should be able to have sex outside of a binding relantionship suach as marriage. I certaintly think that if at all marriage should be postponed for a while with exceptions.

Brightman Wrote:
I do not think teenagers should be able to have sex outside of a binding relantionship suach as marriage.

What about gay people? What about just having sex because it is fun without having to get involved with each other? It's only a shag after all.


Brighty

are teens able to juggle commitents as in school work for their future and handle  adult relantionships that can be diffucult for adults??  

What can a teen do on a accidental pregnacy?? condoms are not 100%.

they are then faced with some very reall decisions. it is easy say abort but that too  can be difficult choice and abortions can have bad medical side effects.   The what of their school work and an educated life? and their future?

Just because a youngster has a libido that doesn't mean they are ready for any kind of sexual relationship. When I was in my early teens (underage) I certainly had a libido, but had zip, zero, zilch, null interest in having any kind of relationship or liason or shag with any person. When one of my school friends fell pregnant at the age of 14 I was absolutely stunned. A woman is only fertile for a few days in her cycle, so if someone falls pregnant by accident, I can conclude that they were either very unlucky, or had been taking risks for quite some time.

While I realise that policies that prohibit or discourage sexual activity outside of marriage are so out of step with society that they are positivley harmful (doen't the morally conservative USA have an incredibly high teenage preganancy rate?), I still resent those patronising or exploitative people who have the attitude that sexual activity is something that we must all be encouraged to do because they believe a lack of sexual activity is unhealthy or abnormal.

nirrti Wrote:
bet the vast majority of you didn't wait until you were married, so what's up with the hipocracy?  I'm sick of this culture and religion who treat sex as something that anything other than healthy and normal.  No wonder these kids are so ignorant when it comes to their bodies and emotions.


First of all

If I am the adult . It is not hipocracy at all . As an adult I have right to make rules for anyone who is not adult under my responsibility to make rules and enforce that I did not follow or have

Are we here promoting underage sex or autism rights????

I can only imagine what NAAR and can and the media think of this discussion.

nirrti Wrote:
We can make rules all you want but the fact is that teenagers do have minds of their own and most likely, they will engage in some sort of activity before they're 18.  Yes, we would love if they waited until they got older but reality is otherwise.  You can, however, provide guidance to your children on issues regarding relationships but the bottom line is they will do what they want to do.  And because of that, you have to make sure that they know the means to prevent STDs and pregnancy.

And by the way, I don't appreciate being accused of "pushing" underaged sex.  I am pointing out what already is going on and has always been going on.  And that's the problem.  We deny and deny until one of these kids gets in trouble because we're not comfortable with the subject.


I dont agree with this all. minds or no minds. Teenagers can be prvented from having sex if ppl really wanted.

nirrti Wrote:
Oh, and no way in the world do I advocate teenagers engaging in sexual contact with adults.  

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unbelievable,

Sex betweent teenagers is ok and good and healthy (being teenager arbitiraility defined)

While contact with adults (again is arbtirarily defined) is by defination bad.


So the olden days of marriages of 15 and 16 years old to adults is bad?

Brightman Wrote:
Are we here promoting underage sex or autism rights????

I was under the impression that we were talking about teenagers legally old enough to engage in sex so my argument was directed at those aged 16 - 19 years old which was why I though you're argument to be a little OTT.


in the US 16-18 is still considered to be minors and not able to give consent

for the kids to download porn?

No, I was talking about kids aged 16 and over having consentual sex.

But now you mention it I don't have too much of a problem with 16 year olds downloading a few pics to masterbate to or use as a sex aid.


Some of this stuff is seriously sick eg. people doing it with animals, torture and child abuse so I don't think kids should have open slather on watching it.

No-one should be allowed to watch it, it's illegal here as it is in most civilised countries (as far as I know). Pictures of children engaging in sexual acts is not pornography, it's photographic evidence of child abuse as far as I'm concerned.
I guess my concern was not only about kids being exposed to noxious images on the net

What counts as being noxious though?


Some parents have got huge phone bills and then found their teenager has been going onto all these "adult" sites.

That sounds closer to a discipline problem than a immorale one, if you catch my drift. What about parents who don't ever recive any such bills? Is there no problem there?
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