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Ethel Wrote:
NEWSFLASH FROM REALITY: NOT EVERYBODY IS JUST LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless you personally know Richie, who the hell are you to pass judgement on his potential ability?  It may well be that what he's achieved is the absolute best he can do - there is no such thing as a typical Aspie, we're all so different with skill sets scattered to the four winds.  That's why they call it a "spectrum".  So not everybody can do what you do - some can do more, some can do less.  That doesn't just go for Aspies, but the whole human race.

As long as he's happy I wish him the very best of luck.


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(also, I assumed that Ethel was scolding Guesswho for his...negative view towards the lad)

Korrigan Wrote:
Well, and I think that part of the site's (AFF) goals is to increase support services and to (paraphrasing here) remove the needed "LFA" label to get the services.  

So I was not sure how to feel.  Maybe, for their purposes, saying that they provide assistance, Richie was the perfect poster child.


I think the main reason for getting rid of the intra-spectrum labels is to encourage people to describe abilities as is. For example, Richie obviously had difficulty with life-coping skills, and with holding down a job - saying so isn't an issue.

If there were any claims all aspies had these problems, that would be an issue - but they're just talking about one example, so no problem.

I haven't done this in 12 years.  I am a programmer now.  Do any of these sound like they ring a bell?

Analysis of covariance?
Did you try Wikipedia?  It might help you find a test with a name you can stick on it.

Korrigan Wrote:
Thank you EZ and others for your posts.  My husband was not thrilled at the ad, and I took a tone of concern on his behalf.  Thank you for the clarification.  I will watch the video and such now that I am home for the evening and discuss it with my better half in more detail.


*grins* No probs.

I should add as a disclaimer that I haven't actually seen the video myself, or looked into the organisation yet, so it's entirely possible there might be other nasty little surprises...

I tried to get a job (4 PM to midnight or modnight to 8 AM) at one of the 24 hour supermarkets (Wal Mart Supercenter, Food Lion, Food 4 Less) while living in Martinsburg WV with Mom in 1997.

But I did not hide my true level of education.

Neither did they offer any employment.

Dad explained it nicely while he was still alive (before 1996).  They want people who aren't going anyplace.  When you have a chance, you're leaving West Virginia and they know it.  

Damn, Chris Marsh is a **** flight risk!

And I do need to confess something Mom said before she died

Mom Wrote:
Money doesn't care where it comes from.


Any legal occupation.  Mom grew up on a dairy farm.  They got $43 a month selling the milk.  Got milk?

But Mom would have been offended to have someone tell her, let's get Chris a job in a supermarket.... He's worked harder than that!

A lot of helping professionals have trouble with the concept of THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO YOU OR I.  

I'm superior to you because I'm the helping professional and you have the disability.
I'm the MSW and you're the client.
Oh, you have a Master's, too?
Sociology?  Comparable to social work?
There but for the grace of who?

Christian superhero story... The Shepherd, and 'wretched Gretchen' becomes Amazing Grace.
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I had four older siblings who died as miscarriages.  They are alive in Heaven, saved by default because they never were born and never were old enough to choose not to deny Jesus as Savior

I named them

Matthew Peter Marsh or Grace Mary Marsh
Mark Paul Marsh or Faith Martha Marsh
Luke Silas Marsh or Hope Elizabeth Marsh
John Thomas Marsh or Charity Anna Marsh

Korrigan Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Ding!  Tell Korrigan what she has won!

Korrigan Wrote:
I am not sure what to say other than that I believe this is a misrepresentation of an "average" Aspie.  Maybe I am wrong here...


Honestly, I was offended, but thought maybe I was misreading or misunderstanding it.


Well, GuessWho can be kind of hard to follow, but he has a lot of good things to say. Here's a translation. (Not meant to be offensive, GuessWho. Just making Korrigan aware of what you wanted to get across, as obviously she didn't - literally - piece it together).

Korrigan Wrote:
I am not sure what to say other than that I believe this is a misrepresentation of an "average" Aspie.  Maybe I am wrong here...

GuessWho Wrote:
Ding!  Tell Korrigan what she has won!

GuessWho Wrote:
My personal respect for having intelligence.

The high-end Aspie might say.... water boils because heat turns water into a gas, water vapor, and when the water reaches a critical temperature in a particular spot, it turns into a gas, forms a bubble, and rises, breaks the surface, and goes into the atmosphere.  And give an introduction to physics laws of temperature, pressure, and so on.
Korrigan, sounds like the article made something else boil in your husband, maybe his blood.  And mine too.
No insult intended at Richie, sorry.  He has come far.  But I feel insulted like Korrigan's husband was.  Her husband is very high functioning, a professional, so am I.  A lot of NTs who know nothing about Asperger read about Richie and they think Asperger, autism, Down's syndrome, MR/DD, what's the difference?

Our classmates and few parents called us retards back when we were kids.  Claire Sainsbury wrote in Martian on the Playground how even a physician could make that mistake to mislabel her as MR/DD.  I guess when we were kids, our social behavior is what people look at, our IQ is not readily apparent, we aren't much of little professors yet, with the exception that I knew dinosaurs at age 6.  People have to get to know us first to know what we know and that we know a lot, but that becomes more evident at a brief conversation the older we get, as we accumulate formal education.  

We don't like being hassled by people who think they can get a Ph.D in psychology out of a comic book.  Those kind of advertisements feed the popular stereotype of group home guy = stupid, never mind the Asperger and never mind us.
Can't resist...Tongue:

All those women I've heard about their husband:
He can boil an egg, that's all.

Are those men low-functioning?????Big Grin

Korrigan Wrote:

hyke Wrote:
Can't resist...Tongue:

All those women I've heard about their husband:
He can boil an egg, that's all.

Are those men low-functioning?????Big Grin


If I asked my husband he would say that if they accomplished it, it would not quite equate the fall of the Berlin Wall.  But then again, he is a man.  (JOKE!)


For some women it would seem as if they saw water burning though....

I've done chicken in a microwave oven when a gas oven has not worked.  Slow.
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