05-28-2008, 04:18 AM
05-28-2008, 04:48 AM
nathanww Wrote:
Its says that she's been suspended in the article
Oops, so it does - I must have completely glossed over the sentence the first time around...
05-28-2008, 05:09 AM
She's been reassigned on an interim basis to administrative offices, pending an investigation...
05-28-2008, 06:17 AM
Zed Wrote:
The world tells Portillo that her behaviour is inappropriate, and the authorities resort to:
District officials said Portillo — who has been a teacher for 12 years, nine at Morningside — was reassigned to the district offices. ... Portillo's brother was killed in the World Trade Center attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
District officials said Portillo — who has been a teacher for 12 years, nine at Morningside — was reassigned to the district offices. ... Portillo's brother was killed in the World Trade Center attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
aww, boo hoo.....that excuses everything!
hey, this guy killed a bus full of nuns! oh, but his brother died on 9/11! let 'im go, bobby!
Get over yourself, America.
/dons firesuit
05-28-2008, 06:41 AM
She should consider herself lucky, if she did that to my kid, I'd reassign her to an emergency room.
05-28-2008, 11:40 AM
pikajedi4 Wrote:
Zed Wrote:
The world tells Portillo that her behaviour is inappropriate, and the authorities resort to:
District officials said Portillo — who has been a teacher for 12 years, nine at Morningside — was reassigned to the district offices. ... Portillo's brother was killed in the World Trade Center attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
District officials said Portillo — who has been a teacher for 12 years, nine at Morningside — was reassigned to the district offices. ... Portillo's brother was killed in the World Trade Center attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
aww, boo hoo.....that excuses everything!
hey, this guy killed a bus full of nuns! oh, but his brother died on 9/11! let 'im go, bobby!
Get over yourself, America.
/dons firesuit
Zed Wrote:
The world tells Portillo that her behaviour is inappropriate, and the authorities resort to:
District officials said Portillo — who has been a teacher for 12 years, nine at Morningside — was reassigned to the district offices. ... Portillo's brother was killed in the World Trade Center attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
A lot of people lost family that day. As far as I know none before have used that as an excuse to victimise five-year-olds.
Pikajedi4 and Tigger The Wing
Where does it say Wendy Portillo blames her brothers death for her actions? Where does it say that America forgives her for her actions because of her brothers death?
05-28-2008, 11:53 AM
It doesn't indicate that anything was said by Wendy.
But the fact that the administration felt the need to say it and the journalist saw fit to put it in, give the impression that they think that it is of relevance or at least partial justification to this case.
But the fact that the administration felt the need to say it and the journalist saw fit to put it in, give the impression that they think that it is of relevance or at least partial justification to this case.
05-28-2008, 01:02 PM
I assume the news service used the factoid about her brother in 9/11 because the event causes a strong emotional response to Americans. It is still a painful memory that seems like yesterday to those of us who were not as young as some here might have been at the time, nor as far a distance. Many lost family or friends that day. Since, as the news service surmised, it IS an emotion packed topic, perhaps we should drop the 9/11 part of the discussion before the thread turns into a brawl. A suggestion.
05-28-2008, 01:14 PM
Chosen 1 Wrote:
Ok. Tigger I'm sorry. I read more into it. As far as Piki. I can see your point. Although most Americans don't resort to the 911 excuse. Why the admin. was even brought it up is beyond me.
Because I look at your country, and the number of freedoms you are losing because of that, and to stop the "terrorists" staggers me.
fingerprinting at airports?
laptops being imaged and picked through?
the Patriot act?
no, I don't like where you country is headed; down the path of creating martyrs.
That is what your country has done.
Look at Ireland.
Look at the number of terrorist acts that have happened there in the past 70-50 years.
now look at your own country.
05-28-2008, 02:42 PM
Louise "personally insulted or abused me or those I love which I feel Louise did."? If you are offended because she called you names or personally insulted you and those you love, then you need to deal with it. However, if you take her generalisations personally, then that is truly your problem (and you need to deal with that).
"who makes the decision on what constitutes flaming" ... the mods (and the rest of the internet community).
You have decided that you don't trust me. That's ok. That's your choice. However, I wonder whether you could show me where I called you names?
If it bothers you that I am an Activist and you are not ... apply to become one.
It bothers you that I mention that I am a grad student which I mention only because I am unable to work and it gives some explanation as to why I spend so much time on these issues.
Where did I call Wendy names? I said that I hope these events haunt her because I know that Alex and his family will be haunted by it. I was not inflamed and incensed, but I am appalled and not just for the damage that she has done to one autistic child, but to the children in the class, and to Alex's friend whom she bullied into voting against him after he said no. I am also aware that the rest of the children in the school will be influenced by the outcome of the investigation. I hope that she is given professional help.
I do not need to or plan on proving anything to you.
"and going to treat members fairly"
Are you still saying that I haven't treated you fairly?
"and take a rational, sensible and even-handed, consistent approach to your Activist activities on the forum"
Activist activities are outside the forum. I am not a moderator.
"who makes the decision on what constitutes flaming" ... the mods (and the rest of the internet community).
You have decided that you don't trust me. That's ok. That's your choice. However, I wonder whether you could show me where I called you names?
If it bothers you that I am an Activist and you are not ... apply to become one.
It bothers you that I mention that I am a grad student which I mention only because I am unable to work and it gives some explanation as to why I spend so much time on these issues.
Where did I call Wendy names? I said that I hope these events haunt her because I know that Alex and his family will be haunted by it. I was not inflamed and incensed, but I am appalled and not just for the damage that she has done to one autistic child, but to the children in the class, and to Alex's friend whom she bullied into voting against him after he said no. I am also aware that the rest of the children in the school will be influenced by the outcome of the investigation. I hope that she is given professional help.
I do not need to or plan on proving anything to you.
"and going to treat members fairly"
Are you still saying that I haven't treated you fairly?
"and take a rational, sensible and even-handed, consistent approach to your Activist activities on the forum"
Activist activities are outside the forum. I am not a moderator.
05-28-2008, 08:30 PM
Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:
Zed Wrote:
I do not need to or plan on proving anything to you.
....and yet you asked all those questions?
Have a little perspective here - Wendy Portillo seriously emotionally abused a student in her classroom, whereas Louise made a bunch of stupid anonymous comments on an internet forum. The two situations are not comparable.
Furthermore, Alex's mother has dropped by on at least one occasion, and the last thing she'll want to see is a bunch of internal squabbling in a thread supposedly dedicated to acting on behalf of her and her child.
This is a chance for us to actually help do something positive in the wider community, and it would be great if we could hold together a professional approach while it's happening.
Talk out the Louise situation if you must, but please don't do it in this thread.
05-29-2008, 12:27 AM
Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:
Why drag up other threads? Because for some reason it was being cast up in one way or form after each post I posted on the above points until I - as I do and in the straightforward way I do - addressed each and every point.
Am I happy to drop it. I was trying to address some important points above and perhaps they have not been taken in the light they were written. I am happy to keep contributing to this thread or staying out. I personally think all points were relevant to this thread until I basically had enough and responded to the allusions to other threads.
Am I happy to drop it. I was trying to address some important points above and perhaps they have not been taken in the light they were written. I am happy to keep contributing to this thread or staying out. I personally think all points were relevant to this thread until I basically had enough and responded to the allusions to other threads.
... if you believe your ongoing behaviour is truly appropriate ... then "you feel free to do whatever it is you try to do"
05-29-2008, 12:30 AM
Ethel Wrote:
I wish you'd both just feel free to drop it.
THAT.
or, keep it to the original thread/make a new one to talk it out.
05-29-2008, 12:33 AM
Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:
I don't believe you or anyone here would disagree or argue any of those points.
Why drag up other threads? Because for some reason it was being cast up in one way or form after each post I posted on the above points until I - as I do and in the straightforward way I do - addressed each and every point.
Am I happy to drop it. I was trying to address some important points above and perhaps they have not been taken in the light they were written. I am happy to keep contributing to this thread or staying out. I personally think all points were relevant to this thread until I basically had enough and responded to the allusions to other threads.
Why drag up other threads? Because for some reason it was being cast up in one way or form after each post I posted on the above points until I - as I do and in the straightforward way I do - addressed each and every point.
Am I happy to drop it. I was trying to address some important points above and perhaps they have not been taken in the light they were written. I am happy to keep contributing to this thread or staying out. I personally think all points were relevant to this thread until I basically had enough and responded to the allusions to other threads.
Point taken.
Not really going to debate how it started or take sides in this one, and feel free to discuss it elsewhere - just suggesting that from this point on, to continue the debate it would be best taken to another thread.
This doesn't mean I'm suggesting you don't contribute to this thread, of course. Please do.
05-29-2008, 02:13 AM
Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:
Now there is probably other threads that are mopre applicable to this and I am happy to share my thoughts in this more generalise issue rather than the specific abhorent behaviour of that Wendy person.
Anyone know of an applicble thread to share ideas?
Anyone know of an applicble thread to share ideas?
There ya go: http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=13323
Still think it would be great if you joined the activist group - you're obviously quite passionate about these types of actions. If the idea of the "activist" label is disconcenting, you can always choose not to display it - it will just give you the opportunity to enter the discussions.