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That is what the disabilities advisors are supposed to do at the Job centres.
Yes,
A network for job postings, where they want deep single task focus, minimal social interaction, in a minimal distraction environment.

That would be useful.

While I have heard that companies like Microsoft, Google and Intel like to hire Aspies, I still have not seen the job description that does not mention the requirement for either leadership or communication skills.
I wish they had jobs like that available, I would just like a job that I can do by myself or mostly by myself. That would be excellent. For the school year, I have a job as a receptionist, and it is made more difficult due to there being two vents, one that whistles, and one that blows air, and it causes lots of sensory problems. I would like a job with less social interaction, that would be great.

Zed Wrote:

hundred4ever Wrote:
I wish they had jobs like that available, I would just like a job that I can do by myself or mostly by myself. That would be excellent. For the school year, I have a job as a receptionist, and it is made more difficult due to there being two vents, one that whistles, and one that blows air, and it causes lots of sensory problems. I would like a job with less social interaction, that would be great.


What sort of work would you do?
What sort of organization would you work for?


I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I would do
computer programming
computer code troubleshooting, and bug fixes
software design (as long as it didn't involve much need to call people to get information, I am somewhat phone phobic).

It would be cool to work for an organization I respected, as opposed to a company that I have come to dislike the values of.

If I liked the job, and respected the organization, I would be willing to work for a whole lot less than I get paid now.

I think that as 1%'er in society is is a no-brainer that we are outnumbered and going to have problems with integrating successfully.

There is always going to be issues and the best advice I would give any autistic teenager would be to "toughen up" and be prepared to try harder than the rest of your peers and be prepared to encounter much in the way of difficulties, greif and disappointment.

It is not easy and any on who tries to convince me life is a wonderful thing is not selling what I am buying.

However we can support each other and give our support where we can and a great example of this is http://www.auties.org/ . There is no one job or easy streamlining for people on the spectrum but being aware of our stregths and being tough enough in ourselves to step out of our comfort zones and struggle against disappointment hold the best chance for us to get by as individuals.

Grumpy_Old_Rossco Wrote:
I think that as 1%'er in society is is a no-brainer that we are outnumbered and going to have problems with integrating successfully.

There is always going to be issues and the best advice I would give any autistic teenager would be to "toughen up" and be prepared to try harder than the rest of your peers and be prepared to encounter much in the way of difficulties, greif and disappointment.

It is not easy and any on who tries to convince me life is a wonderful thing is not selling what I am buying.

However we can support each other and give our support where we can and a great example of this is http://www.auties.org/ . There is no one job or easy streamlining for people on the spectrum but being aware of our stregths and being tough enough in ourselves to step out of our comfort zones and struggle against disappointment hold the best chance for us to get by as individuals.


Some Aspies may need help centers/disability job seekers to assist us in finding a job suited to our needs and abilities.  I don't just mean want, but actually need.

While your "toughen up" idea is a good idea for 100% of the human race, it may not work as reliably as it should for someone on the spectrum.  Sometimes, support and, most importantly, people who understand the unusual problems and idiosyncratic skill set of ASD need to help the AS person steer their ship to the right place.

That we are outnumbered by NTs should not be as great an issue as it used to be.  I am aware that when the diagnosis was not much in use and there was not much support for people with any kind of neurological difficulty, the only choice was to toughen up.

But nowadays, I think we're entitled to a bit more.  And I think the society can try to understand the idea that some of us cannot make as many "positive changes" to our life that the non-autistics among us can do, with hardly batting an eyelash.  That's not to say NTs have it easy, of course--just that making changes is a known difficulty for ASD people.  I think we can ask the society to acknowledge that a bit, now.  We're all on AFF for a reason--this movement is about giving people of our kind more support, more positive exposure, and more access to an individual identity than we've ever had before.

And those of us who came before the diagnosis was in common use--who had no choice but to suffer through everything without having a way to express themselves, without having an identity or a self, without anyone who could understand--we haven't forgotten them.  They pave the way for the modern Asperger/autistic movement.

Yes Batman I hope that support will be more available and that we ought not be faced with the greif we will encounter as a result of being outnumbered and under supported.

I breaks my heart thinking of the lack of support my boy will have in relation to his needs, when older and how my humiliation, embarassment, shame, and pain this gentle little boy will encounter and how I can not protect him from this.

Those who know me know that what I have I am willing to share and I am honest, compassionate and supportive. We all ought to be. Life is tough enough.
I don't have an industry preference.

I have no problem contacting someone for clarification, if I can do so by email.
(I am phone phobic, and don't really understand why picking up a telephone causes stress to set in.)

I do functional specifications in my current job, I am actually quite good at this, if the business has their requirements well documented.
(I tend to fail when it becomes my job to push the business to provide the needed information.)

I have, in the past, worked with customers to develop specifications.
But this was always in cases where I had already developed a working relationship with the customer.
If I felt the requirements were illogical, or not reasonable to obtain, I would ask them the business need, what they need the software to accomplish, and then propose solutions.
If this was done mostly by email, it falls in my comfort zone.
I did manage to develop a pretty good working relationship with the group of customers who used the automated warehouse I supported.

I learn new programming languages quickly.
I used to be very good with C, Pascal and Cobol, informix4gl and Basic.
I have reasonable experience in Perl, ksh, and ABAP (SAP's proprietary language).
I recently taught myself php and JavaScript.  I would not yet consider myself expert at these languages, but I am learning them quickly.
I troubleshoot myspace code as a hobby.  The poor design of myspace has tuned me into a css expert.

In college I used mostly C.
My first job out of College was supporting and modifying systems written in Cobol.

I am a strong proponent of code reviews.  I have been on both the reviewing end and receiving end of them.
I don't like having my code criticized, but I see the value in having code reviews.  If I feel the code reviewer is competent it makes it easier to take the criticism.
I have spent enough time supporting other people's code, that I have a pretty good idea of what makes code supportable.

I do not cope well with users who change their mind too often, if the time line is short and I am feeling pressured.
I do fine with it if I am not feeling time pressured.
Interesting question though.  
I would count this as a weakness, meaning something I should work on improving.

I Like doing software support from a technical perspective, not a "user does not know how to use the system" perspective.
I love troubleshooting when the code is not working correctly.

I prefer to NOT do 1st level support.
In my current job, I do tier 4 support (which means that they decided it was cheaper to contract out tiers 1-3, so they had to make up a tier 4 for everything tier 3 could not handle).
But I do not do well with lots of things hitting me all at once.
I do very well troubleshooting each problem one at a time.

As for your last question;
I wish I could do all interviews by email or discussion group.

quickduck Wrote:
But this doesn’t mean that accommodation shouldn’t be made. If an employer wants to get the best out of an employee--tackling sensory issues--reducing social interaction--having a rota--allowing the use of email instead of phone--can all increase productivity…
They are only minor accommodations and may even help non-aspie employees function better as well.


My husband was helped INCREDIBLY by simply removing the flourescent light bulbs above his desk.  Years of being miserable solved by a quick action of removing bulbs.  (Exasperated sigh.)

I find working earlies or lates makes the drive to work (and parking on arrival) easier, so I arrive at work less stressed.

Zed Wrote:
Michael1 said:
If NAS really wanted to help adults with AS they would help us get non stress, social free jobs.

Some of us need to have quiet, low-lit, low interaction jobs but they tend to require skills, talent and/or education.

If we don't have a formal education or access to technology, we may find ourselves without the contacts to discover roles that we can realistically handle.

I have had very well paid jobs, but chose to return to study. Now, I need paid work and am considering setting up a school to employment transition programme. The trouble is that it will take a long time to go from setting up to a position that will pay me for at least some of my time.

In the meantime, I am reviewing job descriptions and skill levels for various jobs. Does anyone know of roles that would be suitable and achievable for different skills and interests?


I really don't think that there is a social-free job out there. Pracically every single job out there do require interaction with others. When I worked in the college cafeteria in various postions, I had to interact with others, even when I am stocking beverages and there is a request for a beverage or milk.

I have noticed the aspies I know usually have their own business. This includes myself. However my wife does the social side and I shuffle paperwork looking after the details. I am also studying chem after an abortive attempt to gain a Teaching degree (needs social skills no matter how good the grey matter is). I do wish to chase that elusive PhD after time mainly to prove all my naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately all jobs require some sort of social interaction even if say, I was fixing a car (I am a mechanic by trade). I ran a mobile repair business a while ago in spite of handicaps with phone use and rather poor social skills. That didn't matter. I did written quotes after examination of said vehicle and let my advertising do the talking (learn this skill it more than compensates). And I would employ someone with top grade social skills to present a human face. My wife handled this role and booked my appointments.

With this business charging by the hour and myself doing little talking and getting the job done was very much appreciated by the customers. The side benefit I did little social engagement (and appeared "normal"), undercut other "gasbag" competitors and was able to complete more jobs in a day. So it wasn't a problem. Don't let being an aspies allow someone to pigeonhole you, there are many options. Never, never, never give up.

Zed Wrote:

hundred4ever Wrote:
I wish they had jobs like that available, I would just like a job that I can do by myself or mostly by myself. That would be excellent. For the school year, I have a job as a receptionist, and it is made more difficult due to there being two vents, one that whistles, and one that blows air, and it causes lots of sensory problems. I would like a job with less social interaction, that would be great.


What sort of work would you do?
What sort of organisation would you work for?


Sorry, I haven't answered. Hmm... what sort of work would I do? I don't exactly understand what this is asking.Do you mean, what organisation would hire me with these restrictions that I am setting?

Sorry, I don't understand, exactly.

Cleaning crews can be noisy especially when they bring their niños along.  No offense, but young children are noisy no matter what ethnicity they are.
I'd be too nervous to memorise anything.
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