Aspies For Freedom

This is much more realistic than a silly delusion about forming a "nation".

What temporary provision should be made for Aspies unable to pay rent?  What should they be expected to do in place of rent?

Which Aspies would be willing to stay in a socialistic arrangement if it were so?  A minor few Aspies thrive in capitalism.

Thought for amenity: bike garages/lockers for rent.  There is going to be a strong pro-bicycle sentiment because biking requires no license and is cheap and gas is expensive

How to handle parking if someone has a car..... how many parking spaces to have?????  

I am beginning to think some sort of a shuttle bus (old small school bus) might be very helpful (to Metro maybe) but could be expensive.... better to think where is a building on a bus route

My brother's old Geek House concept from 1997, originally based in mind with him (I suspect he is Aspie), me (I know I am an Aspie), our Buck Rogers friend later confirmed to be an Aspie, and our college graduate with honors lady friend (and dated my brother).  My brother was the king of the mountain with 7 years as a computer programmer, followed by the lady with a degree and a telemarketing job, and we Aspies had jobs that sucked with our various degrees (his CS Bachelor's degree and my Master's in sociology).  

The Geek House never came to pass.

I studied computers in 1999 because I really needed a break, and the State of Maryland knew it, and Asperger is a disability, even if it more of a gift for me...

Buck Rogers is still a security guard.  I wonder why get a CS degree if you don't use it, was daddy breathing down his back to get it?  Brother and I been begging him to use that old computer I gave him when I upgraded to the Dell Dimension 2350 five years ago.

Clues for the clueless:

It is not socialism if it is voluntary.  It is only socialism if it is imposed by force--governmental force, for the most part.  If it is a voluntary arrangement, then it is CHARITY.

Contrary to what leftwing propagandists and their useful idiot mouthpieces like to spew, charity and socialism are NOT THE SAME THING.  Socialism ultimately happens at the point of a gun--"share" or you go to prison.  Charity is voluntary, share or not by your free choice--even if that means you freely choose to sign a contract spelling out the terms of the sharing.

This is proposed to be a VOLUNTARY community, with no government coercion involved.  Thus it is impossible, by definition, to be socialist.  It certainly can, of course, be charitable to a greater or lesser degree.

Given the nature of this beast, I would say that explicit, well-spelled-out, and concrete provisions will be needed for how charitable support will be handled.  Of course, depending on how communal this community is, individuals who are not well-suited to money making enterprises could still be of great utility.

My brother doesn't have or need a college degree.  He parlayed his computer hobby into a job shortly after quitting college (well, he quit the military officer scholarship, so there went his electrical engineering degree and Air Force career.... but the *** ROTC dorm at Virginia Tech is in your face 24/7/365).  I think he was justified......

Dad had it in his potentially Aspie mind that if we both did not commute to Shepherd we would not both go to college.  According to Dad's projections, he and Mom weren't supposed to die of cancer each at age 66.  

Mom overruled his decision to commute me to Shepherd.  She decided I would have to live there primarily for the adult socialization lessons.  She was probably right anyway given the extreme winter weather conditions in the Sleepy Hollow hills (we drove a rear-wheel drive Pontiac T-1000 in and out for two years, and got stuck trying), and Dad wouldn't have wanted to drive me back and forth anyway....

The Dad half of the parental brain thought they couldn't send him to college, and gave him such grief about it he got a military scholarship he didn't really want to shut Dad the hell up.  That is one way to motivate your kid to do well in school I guess.....

I am imagining a major city such as Washington DC, specifically, or another city with mass subway like Boston, New York City, San Francisco

I am extremely familiar with mass transit (Metrobus Metrorail and the smaller systems, DASH, The Bus, ART, I have also heard of Ride On) in and around Washington.  There is no shortage of alternatives here.  There is hourly car rental Flexcar-Zipcar.  Commuter rail MARC and VRE.  Amtrak.

If it is done at the point of a gun, it is socialism.  If it is voluntary, it is charity.  That is the key difference.

It has not been established that it would necessarily be nonprofit.  I've seen no charter to that effect.

Socialism is enforced at the point of a gun.  If there is no violence nor no threat of violence implicit in the system, it it not socialism.  Violence and the threat of violence are heart and soul part of socialism.

An issue that needs to be addressed is schools.  I would never even imagine moving to a "major city" specifically because the school systems of these major cities stink on ice.  Why condemn children who would need particular care to an even worse fate by forcing them to deal with the worst systems in the world, such as those found in Washington, Boston, NYC, etc?  The suburbs of these "major cities" are the most expensive places to live.  A "second-tier" city would be a much better choice, especially one with less-expensive suburbs.  Actual hardcore urban life can be hell on a child with sensory issues.

Just imagine what it would be like to be an aspergic or autistic child in places so horrible (like NYC, Washington, or Boston) that the schools have to have metal detectors and their own police forces to deal with the violence.

Depends on the school district DogBrain.  There are many school districts in a metropolitan statistical area,

The vast majority of them are not nonprofits.

They do not have the 401<foo> legal status of "not-for-profit" corporation.  Instead, they pay taxes as if they were ordinary businesses or corporations.   You're just pretending to be so ignorant of the pertinent regulations, aren't you?

That's what I thought, since, otherwise, you would be trying to pontificate and even "correct" people from a position of utter ignorance, which only an idiot would do.

The cooperative building idea sounds good to me.  Any group can operate a coop.  There are several churches and ethnic groups that built cooperative buildings in my city.  They do discriminate because some are only for seniors, artists, disabled etc.  I think discrimination is an issue because some families are a mix of NT and autism.  But a cooperative can be like a private club with people having to apply for membership and having a board of members deciding who is accepted or not.  Members would have to agree with a constitution and all the rules and vote on issues.  

Most of the problem with any Aspergian community is cost of start up.  I wonder what kind of community or cooperative that we could start, maybe even on-line that would eventually led to us having some real estate in the future.  Some type of on-line community that makes money and we have shares in.  Perhaps it could just start off as people home swapping for vacations.  

There could be an on-line registry of people who want to home swap for vacation or find a room to stay.  People know their own neighbourhoods and what is aspie friendly and could help out with advice.  There would be a fee and that could be banked to perhaps renting accommodations for an aspie retreat, then so on to eventually owning buildings.  It also solves the immigration problems since people would only be coming for a vacation or retreat.  It would not be a permanent home for most though.  

Any aspie community or building would not have to have all its own services.  Local businesses would learn to understand that they would have to be aspie friendly if they want us as customers.  Just like bus tours that stop at certain restaurants or shopping destinations, they want the business. Usually some agreements are drawn up with them in advance.

Here is my situation:

I have a wife and son, another child on the way.  I am employed in a sector that can pay well but is hard to get hired into (life sciences).  I also have three other sons from a previous wife who can be somewhat contentious.  So, what would induce someone like me to quit his job, sell his house (in this terrible market), move his family, potentially give an ex-wife ammunition for making complaints due to "environment" (custody/family courts can be remarkably prejudiced when "mental" issues come up), and join such a living arrangement?

The problem is that, on the other side of things, people who are sufficiently unconnected to society at large to easily make such a move might likewise lack the economic means to help support the proposal.

Not moving is an option for on-line communities.  I have yet to connect with aspies in my own physical community.  

I would not move to another city either.  I would not mind a home swap though for a vacation.  

Another option might be helping aspies make their current living arrangements and community more aspie friendly.  Such as making available resources for sound/light proofing rooms, renovating or modifying homes, resources for homeschooling and other alternatives to public education, legal resources, help with employment for people who need to work from home.