http://www.tidal-model.com/
I found this site on the net the other week - it talks about a science of recovery from mental illness. I like their ideas a lot. I also read a book written by the same people who set up the tidal model site.
The gist of their ideas might be that good mental health revolves around our ability to feel centred and balanced in a spiritual sense.
Maybe the time you spend in thought serves to nourish your inner spirit.
People are different, pholosophers spent / spend a lot of time in thought.
Some people dislike the use of the word recovery on autistics who learn new skills or whatever may help them in some way.
From my own experience of depression, I often wanted to discuss my thoughts in depth with others and felt a sense of isolation that most people did not posess the attention span I needed, or would not be patient enough to help me put my thoughts in order, not the recall to develop previous talks. It makes for more damaging 'self talk' as an aspect of depression and isolation and this can often lead to the development of psychosis or fixed delusions.
I think this is a very good initiative. One that I could have done with previously, but hope that I won't need it again. However - if I do I'll be very glad that you're there. Thank you!
Hi, Recovery- Just curious, did you find my WV page on the Neurodiversity Movement through AFF, or vice versa?
I've also found that few people want to talk about the things I want to talk about in the depth I want to talk about them or for the length of time I want to talk about them. Even professionals glaze over. I'm learning to stop yakking about the same things over and over with my friends too long, but it is frustrating. At least they will listen longer and with more interest than most people (I have good friends
), but they still clearly get bored after a dissatisfyingly short time.
Recovery_Psychology wrote something about recovery from psychiatric disabilities, which I guessed wouldn't include depression but rather autism (I'm not sure), hence my previous comment.
Many visitors of AFF who tell of bad experiences with psychiatry, and often for this reason don't seek an official diagnosis of ASD.
(I think that is the wording.) I am always hearing that recovery from mental illness does not mean cured of mental illness.
This is always a sign that the "professionals" who specialize in "treatment" of a condition are still at the "I shake the rattle and hope he gets better" level.
Then I ask why? There are times when I feel not depressed. But the depression does come back. What causes the depression?
"Depression" is a term so vague as to be nearly meaningless from a clinical standpoint. The state of modern psychiatry. Imagine if malaria, influenza, septicimia, and measles were all just called "fever", since fever is a symptom of all of these (or often is). Now imagine that there is only one type of drug available--it treats the "fever" symptom, sort of, and all medical research is devoted to doing nothing but treating that symptom with no care for actual differences in states or aetiologies.
Who says we NEED to recover, I don't see that attitude as being much better than the curebies.
If you aren't a curebie of course.
Repeat after me: We are not diseased.
Some people dislike the use of the word recovery on autistics who learn new skills or whatever may help them in some way.
I do not address recovery of autism; in my psychology of developmental disabilities class (that was the name of the course) my instructor (who of course means well) told the concept was more about adaptation rather than recovery.
Guess I've misunderstood then, thanks for clarifying.
Who says we NEED to recover, I don't see that attitude as being much better than the curebies.
If you aren't a curebie of course.
Repeat after me: We are not diseased.
He's not talking about recovery from autism, he's talking about recovery from depression. Please actually read someone's posts, don't just skim them, before commenting.
Sorry mate, I apologise, I took you for a curebie at first.
I like your ideas.
OT: Recovobies
John Lennon, struck right at me.
Whist I respect the idea of recovery where it is applied appropriately, it is important to note that for some people (myself included) therapeutic interventions did not work and only medication has worked for me and also pratical support / advocacy for things that I cannot do (rather then using psychological therapy to tell me I can do it really and it is just lack of self-confidence or my 'inner parent' or whatever stopping me).
I seem to just have some chemical imbalances in my brain and this combined with the fact that I was not recieving support with tasks that I lacked capacity to carry out, in my individual case, caused depression, anxiety and exacerbation of my OCD. Now that I have support with tasks that I cannot do and I have found the right combination of meds to control my chemical imbalances I am a lot better.
So like I said, I do respect the recovery idea but I do think it is important to acknowledge that this does not work for everyone and that there is a place for medication in some cases.
I like your ideas.
OT: Recovobies
Ha Ha! Recovobies! If that was an insult! I would still like it! I think alot of people who work with persons with mental illness can learn alot from the Neurodiversity movement...see I think my NT (neurotype) places me in such an odd situation, where I am told I am not like the other SMI people (because I am so labeled mentally ill) that I have always heard this "high functioning" and "low functioning" talk for so long that it is not funny...It always angered me...Is not functioning just functioning? The labeling and the categorizing, it always put me where I did not feel I fit in...If Recovobie is not already a word I will gladly accept that title!
At AFF, usually the abbreviation "NT" stands for Neurotypical (i.e, "normal"). I don't think most people abbreviate neurotype. Using NT to stand for neurotype may confuse some people. Just letting you know.