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IncognitoInnominate Wrote:
turtles have legs
or
turtle shave legs

... i think aspie is more of a state of mind than a list of characteristics.
Is a chair still a chair if it has 12 legs?


I think its both turtles have legs and turtle shave legs which makes it interesting and confusing and it depends on the persons personality which one they see.

I think a chair is still a chair if it has 12 legs, the legs could be all under the part that you sit on so it could still look exactly like a normal chair and be the exact same size only with not needed legs.

ichtms Wrote:
I'm more "shave" than "have" but I'm much more for "have" than "shave" because it makes more sense. In any which way, Welcome To The Forums!!!


Same with me. turtle shave legs only makes sense if there is a comma inbetween after the turtle, like it is an order.

"Turtle, shave legs"

"Turtles have legs"

both could make sense. You could also do turtle shavel egs, if you pretended the shavel was shovel and egs was eggs.

"Turtle shovel eggs"

I like turtles, they have small legs. I think it wouldn't be good to shave them because turtles have scales and shaving could cause irritation and pain for the animal.

Quote:
Turtles have flippers.
Tortoises have legs.


This is true, but not completley true. Whilst sea turtles and giant turtles have flippers that they use to manouvre their way through the water, freshwater turtles usually have legs and webbed feet, without having a full flipper leg.

This turtle here appears to have legs.



As does this one



Also "Sea turtles are almost entirely aquatic and instead of feet they have flippers." and "The amphibious turtles normally have limbs similar to those of tortoises except that the feet are webbed and often have long claws" If the foot is webbed, does this make a leg any less a leg? I know a person who had webbed feet and they are entirely human and meet the criteria required to classify a limb as a leg "A leg is a limb on an animal's body that supports the rest of the animal above the ground between the ankle and the hip and is used for locomotion".

From this I conclude that almost most of all breeds of freshwater and amphibious turtles have legs with webbed or clawed feet (or both). I think these animals still meet the criteria for leg though, therefore, leg.

I do not make sense.

Zed Wrote:

turtleshavelegs Wrote:

Quote:
Turtles have flippers.
Tortoises have legs.


This is true, but not completley true. Whilst sea turtles and giant turtles have flippers that they use to manouvre their way through the water, freshwater turtles usually have legs and webbed feet, without having a full flipper leg.

[snip]

From this I conclude that almost most of all breeds of freshwater and amphibious turtles have legs with webbed or clawed feet (or both). I think these animals still meet the criteria for leg though, therefore, leg.

I do not make sense.


You do make sense. Thank you for the correction and interesting information.

Should I take it that you do not shave your legs, but that you are a land turtle? Big Grin

"Legs and feet. A turtle's legs and feet vary according to the habitat of the species. Land turtles, particularly tortoises, have heavy, short, clublike legs and feet. Most freshwater turtles have longer legs and [flat] webbed feet. Sea turtles have legs shaped like long paddles, with flippers instead of feet."
http://www.worldbook.com/wb/worldbook/cy...kturt.html


Yes, Indeed I am a land turtle Big Grin

DocMartin Wrote:
You're a land turtle?
Did you ever talk to your therapist about that?
It could give a nice additional diagnosis.
Wich reminds me, that after lots of meetings with a counsellor I told him that I avoid using the elevator.
He said that this was an interesting new point, and we should continue talking about other phobias.
I answered: "Well, that's just because I don't like meeting one of the neighbours there - it's not more than my social phobia."



Oh! It would indeed give an interesting additional diagnosis.
My therapist tried to talk me out of my phobias (apple stickers, the color pale red- not pink but salmoney red). He brought me into a room and there was an apple sticker and I was supposed to be brave but I was not brave and I ran out.

gwynfryn Wrote:


I clicked on the link there and the link it told me to click on there and it resulted in no test that I could see.

"So, based on your answers, what can we say about your style?
These people can be readily identified because of the strength of their achievement drive. They are task focused, competitive in outlook, organised in their approach to their work and persistent and determined in pursuing their goals. Where there is insufficient maturity, limited experience or a lack of well-developed self-management, these very strengths can create difficulties. They want to push aside all obstacles so, even when on the wrong track, they will be hard to dissuade from their dedicated approach.

Their work style is typified by personal accomplishment, striving to overcome whatever obstacles may be in the way, making it essential that there is no ambiguity whatsoever about their level of authority, their decision making scope and their overall freedom to act as they see fit. Because of this persistent and determined drive to achieve, social niceties sometimes fall by the wayside. They are dedicated to achieve, and they expect other people to be the same. Consequently, they will be intolerant of people who take a frivolous attitude towards their given responsibilities and, whether they are in a position of authority or not, they are capable of openly criticising other people's lack of contribution. However, they will most certainly respect and work effectively with associates they regard as competent, professional, and similarly achievement driven.

Pressure develops for this style of person when there are blockages in their progress, which they are powerless to remove. They can become openly critical, blunt in the way that they express themselves and they may well go out of their way to prove themselves correct, rather than looking constructively at the situation and seeking a wholly rational solution. Because they actively seek status and recognition through the achievement of their work goals, there is not much patience with associates who hinder their progress, and there is likely to be a rejection of those people in authority who try to re-direct them.

It will be fairly obvious from the above comments that, if these drives can be effectively harnessed, high productivity will be achieved. Therefore, they will appreciate a manager who can help them understand the importance of the activity in which they are engaged, for that in itself drives them to high personal achievement. It is also important for them to have a reward system at work, associated more with gaining prestige and recognition from their peers rather than being solely recognised by salary.

Summary
People of this style are project oriented, but seek control of the project and overall responsibility for successful achievement of the goal. They like to be boss and work on activities that accent detail, persistence and 'task' rather than 'people'."

this is somewhat me, and somewhat not me.
I'm in denial about being Autistic, being aspie I can deal with but Autism seems so extreme.
Camembert is my favourite cheese!
I like it straight or melted abit. I also enjoy the cheese with the red wax.
What books did you read?
I'm sort of in denial at the moment, perhaps I too need a better description. Wikipedia did me no wonders.
My mother also has an awful book about raising a child with Autism that she has. It is awful. I started reading it but I got really mad because it didn't sound like me and she started to change the ways she spoke and dealt with me.

Ian Wrote:

alectrum Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
And what I like the most? Aspies unerring ability to annoy the hell outta me Tongue


You should really read my blogspotWink

http://executivefun.blogspot.com/


Na see I like that cuz that's you doing...what you do.

I mean the Aspies that moan about how *** life is constantly Tongue



I hope I don't annoy people. :/
And yes! cheese! the wonder of the world. I love cheese flavoured things too, like cheesy nacho chips because I really, really love nachos and I am a vegetarian so its all tomatoey and chippey and cheesey and beaney.

I guess I am what I am too, but I don't know. I think it is going to take some getting used to, Bipolar Disorder I can deal with, but Autism is so extreme and hardcore.

flardox Wrote:

turtleshavelegs Wrote:
My mother also has an awful book about raising a child with Autism that she has. It is awful. I started reading it but I got really mad because it didn't sound like me and she started to change the ways she spoke and dealt with me.


how did she start "speaking" and "dealing" with you?

was it a kind of babyish over explaining lecture voice?


Sort of, and sort of it seemed like she stopped listening when I ranted about something.

I consider hardcore a compliment also, but it is a little scary still to be recently diagnosed with this, I've never seen anyone with Autism before except for a scary thing on television once and a little boy I once met who was not scary but very cute instead.

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
I know what you mean, turtle!

A few months ago I was having a very productive conversation about synæsthesia with one of the office staff at a school where I was volunteering. Then I mentioned that I am autistic. She immediately put on a weird high pitched 'talking to toddlers' voice and simplified her vocabulary drastically. I was totally stunned. Rolleyes

And no-one knows anything about autism except the propaganda until it affects us. If they even know that. When I took one of my boys to the state hospital accident department they wanted to know his diganoses for their paperwork. The woman hadn't heard of Asperger's, couldn't spell it and didn't know that it is on the autism spectrum - and her badge procaimed her to be a senior nurse.

P.S. Do you suffer insomnia, or are you in Australia? Smile


New Zealand Smile, but I did suffer from insomnia for quite a while last year! After what happened with my mother (I got her to stop now after having a long talk with her about it) I'm not sure if I should alert my teachers to the problem because i'm afraid they might start talking to me like I'm a toddler. I wouldn't enjoy that at all.

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