05-04-2008, 06:09 PM
05-04-2008, 06:19 PM
Can I refer you to our developing rules on bigotry, louise? Though I've every reason to suspect that, as in the real world, misandry will be glossed over.
05-04-2008, 06:22 PM
On topic, if you keep your 'own' name, chances are it's actually your father's...
05-04-2008, 06:31 PM
jiggeryqua Wrote:
On topic, if you keep your 'own' name, chances are it's actually your father's...
Good point jiggery 
05-04-2008, 07:13 PM
Korrigan Wrote:
It did used to make me laugh as I was growing up, my Mom had one name, I had another, and whatever husband she was married to at the time had another one. It was never simple...LOL!
My daughter now has two surnames - mine, on her birth certificate and for general use, but because her mother teaches at her school, she's known by her mother's surname there. That's the least of her worries, mind - we gave the gaelic spelling of her forename, so nobody who hears it can spell it and nobody who reads it can pronounce it...
05-04-2008, 07:40 PM
Marcia Wrote:
I'd be interested to hear more about the history of it, Louise18. In Scotland it's a fairly recent convention, as far as I know.
Could you do that in a different thread? Fuelling feuds (perhaps surprisingly) is something I'd prefer to avoid.
05-04-2008, 07:51 PM
No, I'm sure it wasn't, Marcia - but dragging up a one-sided politically motivated 'history' will fuel a feud, given the topic, the reason for it being raised and the loaded labels applied by the OP to the man who dared disagree with her.
By all means, discuss it - but please, set up a seperate thread for it, so I can avoid it.
By all means, discuss it - but please, set up a seperate thread for it, so I can avoid it.
05-04-2008, 07:58 PM
Louise18 Wrote:
Its historically controversial but the prevailing view is:
Scriptures mandate this," informs Bishop Jakes, founder and senior pastor of the Pentecostal church The Potter's House in Dallas, TX. "When the Bible deals with marriage, it deals with the male as the aggressor, and it says he `takes unto him a wife.' In Ephesians 5:22-24 it discusses that wives should submit to their husbands. It is God's will, according to scripture, that man not ordy be successful but be prepared to share that success with the woman of his choice."
Bishop Jakes cites that although the Bible eludes to the woman following her husband, which would include taking his name, says the evangelist"
Scriptures mandate this," informs Bishop Jakes, founder and senior pastor of the Pentecostal church The Potter's House in Dallas, TX. "When the Bible deals with marriage, it deals with the male as the aggressor, and it says he `takes unto him a wife.' In Ephesians 5:22-24 it discusses that wives should submit to their husbands. It is God's will, according to scripture, that man not ordy be successful but be prepared to share that success with the woman of his choice."
Bishop Jakes cites that although the Bible eludes to the woman following her husband, which would include taking his name, says the evangelist"
History is generally controversial.
Where and among whom is this 'the' prevailing view?? Texas, I guess...not that surprising then, perhaps. I personally wouldn't intrepret 'take unto him a wife' as aggressive, unless I was predisposed to paint men as always aggressors and women always as 'victims'. I've never seen that as in the interests of women, but I'm sure you can guess I've met a few women who disagreed with me...
05-04-2008, 09:50 PM
^ You could always compromise and go for a hyphenated surname Mrs Natalie Smith-Jones.
05-04-2008, 09:55 PM
quickduck Wrote:
^ You could always compromise and go for a hyphenated surname Mrs Natalie Smith-Jones.
I had some college friends who got married - Mr Swift and Ms Speed became the Swift-Speeds. I did try to persuade them to go for a whole new name, a bit like the practise of wordplay in naming racehorses in a way that references their parents names. Mr & Mrs Turbocharged perhaps...
05-04-2008, 09:56 PM
The problem with hyphenated names is whose comes first...
05-07-2008, 04:03 AM
Seems he doesn't jiggerqua either.
05-07-2008, 04:05 AM
or me for that matter - expect some abuse to follow.
I've been busy Korrigan - catch up soon.
I've been busy Korrigan - catch up soon.
05-07-2008, 09:05 AM
Louise18 Wrote:
Having a long argument with a misogynist on a student forum about this, just wondered what everyone here thought.
I did, because I could not understand why one would get married if they did not want to follow the convention. Later, I realised it was about property and inheritance.
In Australia, it is not a legal name change, it is a convention. I can revert to my 'maiden' name at any time, but that requires formal notification of a lot of financial institutions, government departments and the like.
Although I have been separated (amicably) for a long time, I have no reason to go through the paperwork required and so have retained 'his' name.
05-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Batman55 Wrote:
Louise, are you going to take your husband's name when you marry him?
Did I miss something? Louise said:
"its going to be a gay wedding!"