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Peter Ballance has long suffered neurological problems, including Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism, and speech and memory disorders.

To help him recall conversations, work on his stuttering and put social interactions in perspective, the 63-year-old Greenacres resident does something unconventional. He tape-records his conversations so he can play them back later.

"Recording is his way of refreshing his recollection and trying to sort things out," said civil rights attorney Jim Green, who represents Ballance.

Doing so is at the crux of a lawsuit filed Wednesday by Ballance against the City of Greenacres alleging false arrest, malicious prosecution and battery by Greenacres police. He also seeks a declaratory judgment that could affect all Floridians with disabilities.

Ballance says city employees, both police and code enforcement inspectors, have refused to speak to him when he uses his audio recorder. He also says the city has refused him police protection because of it, citing a 2006 incident in which someone was driving around his neighborhood threatening children. Police who responded spoke to other neighbors but refused to speak to Ballance, the suit states.

Greenacres police spokesman, Capt. Michael Porath, said he was unaware of the lawsuit. The department doesn't have an official policy on audio recording, he said. "It would depend on each incident. Each officer would have to make their own determination in each situation," said Porath.

In 2005, Greenacres police began issuing a parking ticket to Ballance for parking his Honda Accord in a grassy area across the street from his home, something he said he and his neighbors had done for years. He did so, he said, because he needed to get the car out of the driveway while he changed the oil on his Ford station wagon.

About a month before the incident no-parking signs were erected. One of the officers, who recognized Ballance from a previous interaction days earlier, instructed Ballance to turn off his recording device. He refused and an altercation ensued in which the officers tackled Ballance to the ground and handcuffed him, drawing blood on his wrists. The encounter was recorded on video by Ballance's teenage son.

Last year, a jury acquitted Ballance of resisting arrest without violence.

Ballance claims that the City of Greenacres has repeatedly denied services to him because of his disability and has refused to grant him a reasonable accommodation, thereby violating the Americans with Disabilities Act. Ballance and Green say Ballance's disability requires the use of "assistive technology"—the recording device.

Ballance, who serves on two local boards for people with disabilities, wears a tiny paper clipped to his chest alerting people that he audio records his conversations because of his disability.

"I'm not trying to entrap the police. I'm trying to have an accommodation for my disability," Ballance said. "I've always been very open and honest about it."

"Under the Americans With Disabilities Act, state and local governments are required by federal law to make reasonable accommodations so people have equal access," Green said. "State law says you can't orally record someone who has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Public officials performing official duties in public places don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy."

Ballance wants people to know his recordings are his way of working on his social skills by helping him remember conversations and improve his stuttering problem.

"This audio recording is not about you. It's about me listening to me," he said.
I am not sure what to say about that other than, gosh darn it, that is upsetting.  

I wish our society were less litigious.  Then again, I would be without a job.  
I actually think the police who violently arrested him should have been charged. If what he says is correct, he did nothing wrong.
Good on him for filing the lawsuit... hope it sends some kind of message that differences like this should be tolerated and someone who is not being violent has no business being arrested.  It reminds me of the man who got tasered for asking too many questions at a speech night...
Well, I think he should have turned the thing off when the police told him to (that's part of their job, isn't it?) but why the heck did they attack him?  That's just stupid.
Actually, I was going to mention a taser incident too, though the guy I was thinking about smashed an airport computer.  He wasn't hurting anyone, though.  Police use tasers too much.
I think he should have the right to walk around and record whatever he wants to learn from the conversations, but I also feel everyone else should have the right to refuse to speak to him until he turns the recorder off if they do not want to be recorded. If the police officers did not want to be recorded, he should have respected their orders and turned the recorders off, especially since the man was the one who did something illegal in the first place (therefore bringing this interaction with police upon himself).
Wearing a sign saying he's recording everything does not give him the right to violate other individuals' privacy, IMO.

Lestat Wrote:
What are the pigs afraid of? if they genuinely act for the greater good, and act justly in doing so, then they have nothing to fear from being on record, if they have to fear it, then they obviously have something shady to hide.


I'm pretty sure public employees aren't allowed to let people record them when they're on duty.  Are they?

I don't think you're allowed to record people without their consent - unless you're MI5 or whatever..

If someone asked if they could record a conversation with me, I'd probably agree, but maybe not, and if I refused then I'd expect them to respect that.
Tempted to drop a hat at this point and sit back and enjoy the play - as it happens I'm sitting in a theatre foyer at the moment so it would be apt...Smile

I think the key difference between whether or not a conversation is recorded is the issue of permanence.  As jiggeryqua says, there are issues of privacy and hearsay....

In addition, tape recordings may be edited or used out of context by any individual for any purpose.  No doubt this man's purposes were innocent, but the police officers, or any others he came into contact with, weren't to know that.

The police reaction seemed on the face of it to be over the top, but we don't know the history behind this...
In some states in the US, the law would clearly allow this person to be arrested.  What's interesting is that there have been cases of people (occasionaly described as Aspies) being arrested for tape recording people without consent.  

In some states, there don't seem to be any real restrictions on recording.

Gareth Wrote:
If the guy is not recording without consent, or if he's only recording the police then he could probably defend himself quite easily in court I would guess, but of course i'm not a lawyer.


"When a man tries to defend himself in court, he has a fool for a lawyer" -Abraham Lincoln

normally_impaired Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
If the guy is not recording without consent, or if he's only recording the police then he could probably defend himself quite easily in court I would guess, but of course i'm not a lawyer.


"When a man tries to defend himself in court, he has a fool for a lawyer" -Abraham Lincoln


Where are the lawyer jokes when you need them? What is the world coming to .... next will we all have to get degrees, study law and pass the Bar just to make sure we are afforded our rights - the pun on that can be otherwsie only the rich can "afford" to defend their rights.

I disagree with the premise of the Lincoln quote but not the veracity.

I personally think it was unreasonable for the police to arrest him.
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