no. this section is time-out.
I am also annoyed by these "parents" showing up here. They ask stupid questions and then when I do reply they are like "oh, you don't have to be so rude. I meant to ask this." Then why didn't you ask "this" and not try to make this forum into some "parent complaining about their kids with autism forum". Aren't there enough of those already?
Not a parent, but still think it's an unfair generalisation.
I actually know what you mean about the "parent complaining about their kids" thing, but it's important to use the full phrase (i.e. "parents complaining about their kids", rather than just "parents").
Also, unless I've missed something, I don't think it's happened for a while...
WTF are you talking about? I am a parent and I posted a thread because I was honestly wanted to know if anybody else was in the same boat. You responded with a what I would consider to be a rude reply. I didn't say that though...I just disagreed with you and went on to respond to what YOU had to say. I didn't back track to say I "meant to ask this", I just clarified it, because you obviously couldn't understand what I wrote.
I personally have never complained about my son being on the spectrum (I can't speak for other parents). If you have a problem with people asking "stupid" questions (or what you feel to be stupid), then don't bother responding with your idiotic replies. It's really just that simple.
Oops, looks like I did miss something... *grins*
M: To clarify my above post, I thought you were talking about an entirely different type of behavior - Kattoo's thread seemed to be based on a perfectly reasonable question.
example of tangent?
Why don't people send a private message explaining what they mean if they feel someone has misunderstood them.
Because it's a public forum.
It could just as easily be said that it would have been better for you to send a private message to Kattoo about not liking her response, rather than starting an entirely new thread to complain about it.
As a general rule, avoiding posting in a thread that may blow up is a good thing, but starting a new thread to complain about it is a bad idea, probably worse than if you had of just ranted in the other thread - now drama has spread to two threads, rather than just one.
Basically, people aren't idiots, and they'll always work out what you're referring to after a while...
The thing with arguments 'round here (sorry, going back a bit - unless you'd like me to start another new thread for it???) is knowing when to stop. Stop too soon and it's like you just announce your thoughts and don't have the courtesy to hang around and explain them and contrbute to the debate. Hit-and-run posting does not a conversation make.
But hang around too long and it becomes:
Guys, just stop it. OK?
I don't care who's pissed off who and who's wrong and who's right, if anyone, but once you reach the point of slagging off each others spelling you've passed the point of it being a sensible argument. Especially when the person correcting others' spelling has errors in their own writing.
Personally, I think criticising someone's parenting skills on an Internet forum is slightly below the belt, and I did feel that the original post about hypochondria was misinterpreted originally by M. But so what? Big deal, its the Internet - is it REALLY that much of an annoyance in your day? There are far more pressing issues in life. Kattoo had her question answered by other posters; she got what she wanted sorted out by other posters who contributed to her thread. Hypothetically, original problem solved. Maybe M shouldn't have opened this thread; maybe Kattoo shouldn't have resorted to name-calling; maybe parenting skills shouldn't be brought into question by strangers to each other online. But so bloody what? Who REALLY cares in the grand scale of things? The thread will get itself locked soon enough at this rate.
That said, I have no desire to get involved in this. Its not my argument; I'm taking a diplomatic stance in this post.
I don't think it is likely that the thread will get locked. If threads were going to get locked around here, then the Cure thread would have been locked. Anyway, I agree with you that the fighting should stop, but it's not going to... When one fight stops, there's always another to take it's place on AFF. But that might just be that I'm not used to internet forums... maybe it's just normal. I hold no hope for stopping arguments anymore... what's the point, when a new one will always be there to take it's place.
When one fight stops, there's always another to take it's place on AFF.
Yes, I have noticed that one is better to get the Ben&Jerrys out and keep schtum on AFF 
I had to look up Ben and Jerry's and schtum... icecream and keeping mouth shut... well not exactly keeping mouth shut since it would be being filled by icecream. 
I feel the need to weight in just once to say -
kattoo13, quit calling people moron's and idiot and nitwits. Putting other people down will not make you feel better about yourself and it will not make you the winner of the argument.
Sorry M another tangent:
What happened here... - which was ironically quite a tangent - and I notice you follow your rule of not answering back or you went to sleep another good idea!- So somehow this thread ran away, someone took it - maybe it will come back or you'll try again- I love the topic - IIt seem sto me you tried to avoid this (drama - I guess on another thread and it followed?) and further more - it seems to me - you started a thread about how to deal with it and then asked a simple question about when it is proper to use the PM - can it be used to help stop misunderstandings. I am a supposed NT and this is all tricky without set rules - there are alot of kids in this playground.
That was probably the intent, but starting a new thread that is available to everyone isn't actually "not responding". It's a response.
Also, it's a response that can't be "swept over", which is why I say that it is probably worse than an outburst in the other thread would be - An angry outburst can be ignored, allowing the conversation to continue. A new thread, however, can only revolve around the argument.
For the record, here's the thread being referred to: http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...#pid201839
M was angry about the responses, so posted this new thread here.
To put it another way, an angry outburst would be the online equivelant of calling someone an idiot, whereas starting a new thread would be the equivelant of turning your back on the person and yelling "Hey everyone! I think (person x) is an idiot!"...
example of tangent?
Why don't people send a private message explaining what they mean if they feel someone has misunderstood them.
Why do you care so much? I wouldn't waste my time sending a PM to a nitwit who wasn't bright enough to understand a thread I posted (not my problem). There are many other people on here who answer with knowledgeable replies.
There are some Aspies who have semantic-pragmatic difficulty and a lot with some form of reading comprehension difficulty. To call someone stupid on the basis of misunderstanding your words is, in my opinion, not very nice at all. You're insulting a lot of people with AS, including me, who aren't great at reading comprehension.
If you an insult an Aspie's intelligence, you insult all of them--people with AS tend to substitute their intelligence for personal worth, and I guess it's the lack of social skills that leads to this.
Good morning sunshine (or should I say jiggeryqua, so you know i am directing this to you)...I didn't bother to read what you wrote. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time reading your nonsense. But I will say this. It seems you may have been "bullied" by one too many "NT's" in your life, and perhaps I'm bringing back bad memories?? I find it amusing that you come across as wanting to have some "rank", since perhaps you don't have any in real life. Let me break something down to you and your pea brain..Assholes are assholes. They are found in "NT's" (as you put it), as well as with "Aspies" (you being a perfect example). Don't get your panties into a bunch because I responded to somebody on this forum who I felt needed to be put in their place. The next time you butt your nose into some thread, take the time to do a little research. It's quite obvious (of course maybe not to you) that this M person has a knack for being rude. He/she just happened to try it on the wrong person. Have a nice day!
This is a nasty nasty post. You know katoo13 I might have even taken your side, that M made an out of line comment to you on your thread, but not now. You are so cruel with this post and you have just been getting meaner throughout this thread. I know I've been bullied in real life and I also know this post is you being a bully. Just stop it.
I feel the need to weight in just once to say -
kattoo13, quit calling people moron's and idiot and nitwits. Putting other people down will not make you feel better about yourself and it will not make you the winner of the argument.
Another example of a nitwit. Do you really think I'm on here to "win" an argument? I have posted threads in this forum which are in regards to my son who is an Aspie.
I'm done taking sides on this one too. M may have started this, but now it's all you, Kattoo.
I'm done taking sides on this one too. M may have started this, but now it's all you, Kattoo.
Word.
For clarities sake, that wasn't a statement of approval. You've taken the insults too far.
And I'm still talking to you, kattoo- though how you knew that when you pretend you have your fingers in your ears while you sing 'la la la la la' is beyond me.
Thanks though, for demonstrating once again who is the problem here - who it is who really does have their panties in a bunch, who the reallly offensive asshole is, who really can't stop themselves being rude, who can't demonstrate maturity, who thinks they can somehow 'win', who thinks that the aspies can just clear off from AFF if they don't like the 'heat' of your abusive presence.
I'm not sure anybody (except perhaps korrigan, who shares many of your traits) is on your side - or ever has been, which may explain your approach to the world. Thank you for clarifying your position, to myself, the other users and the moderators.
And I'm still talking to you, kattoo- though how you knew that when you pretend you have your fingers in your ears while you sing 'la la la la la' is beyond me.
Thanks though, for demonstrating once again who is the problem here - who it is who really does have their panties in a bunch, who the reallly offensive asshole is, who really can't stop themselves being rude, who can't demonstrate maturity, who thinks they can somehow 'win', who thinks that the aspies can just clear off from AFF if they don't like the 'heat' of your abusive presence.
I'm not sure anybody (except perhaps korrigan, who shares many of your traits) is on your side - or ever has been, which may explain your approach to the world. Thank you for clarifying your position, to myself, the other users and the moderators.
I've never seen Korrigan being abusive like kattoo13 has been. I thought her post was fine. This has become more than that now anyway... I wish you would stop responding jiggeryqua. Kattoo13 is making herself look bad without any of your help.
If you don't care whether you insult people or look bad, why is it that you are here again?