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Thanks for the welcomes, everyone Smile

@atypical - your son sounds cool, that was great comeback Big Grin

-K-
I'm jealous of your affinity with sound Smile

With exception of your introverted nature (I'm very extraverted myself) and your affinity with sound I find a lot of similarities with my own personality. I haven't officially been diagnosed with AS (in fact, the psychologist I went to denies that possibility), but I'm pretty sure I have it anyway. Based on your first post, I would say you are clearly an Aspie too.
Again, thanks for all the welcomes everyone... (there's got to be another way to say that, I can't keep repeating myself!  I sound like a broken record) Smile

@IlluSionS667 -- what did you do when the psychologist denied/ignored the possibility of you being an Aspie?  Did you change Doctors or just stop going...?

-K-

KatieG Wrote:
@IlluSionS667 -- what did you do when the psychologist denied/ignored the possibility of you being an Aspie?  Did you change Doctors or just stop going...?


This just happened last week. After the diagnosis, I sent her a mail where I asked her to give a more in depth explanation on why she doesn´t regards AS as an option. Today I received her explanation. She basically said that the tests showed no signs of serial information processing and that my life was too normal (friends, girlfriend, job) to have something as pervasive as Asperger´s. The fact that I had no friends whatsoever when I was 16, no girlfriend until I was 19 (it´s thanks to the Internet that managed to picked up girls in the first place) and that I had complaints about social skills from both current employer and previous employer seem to be irrelevant to her. Surely there were no signs of serial information processing, but with an IQ of 137 it´s quite easy to bypass such limitations when doing simple tests.

I never planned to go to a psychologist on a steady basis anyway, so there´s no hard decision to make. I´m just disappointed by what seems to be a very superficial diagnosis. I´m planning to get a second opinion and (if my suspicions are confirmed) join a self-help group for people with Autism-spectrum symptoms as well as Mensa.

Korrigan Wrote:
...a GP dismissed my husband as "possibly having severe depression due to a thyroid problem as he wears all black all the time."  Um, yeah....


Wait...I'm confused, sorry:  the Doctor thought that a colour somehow physically influenced your husband's thyroid and convinced it to make him depressed?  How did the thyroid gland figure out he was wearing black? Wink

I'm guessing you've switched Doctors permanently, right? Smile

-K-

Korrigan Wrote:

Nope, basically that he wore black all of the time because he was severely depressed, and he was severely depressed due to a thyroid problem...

My husband has NO depression.  I not only changed doctors, but also turned him in to the insurance company.


Ah, right.

I didn't realise you could turn them into an insurance company - will that company give the doctor into trouble somehow?  

-K-

Korrigan Wrote:
...The insurance company keeps a log of complaints.  I just wanted to make him feel some of the discomfort he caused us to feel as we were in there asking for help.


Excellent.  Seems only fair Smile

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
...I´m planning to get a second opinion and (if my suspicions are confirmed) join a self-help group for people with Autism-spectrum symptoms as well as Mensa.


Have to say I agree with Korrigan.  A second opinion certainly sounds like the best thing.

-K-

Korrigan Wrote:
I would definitely get a second opinion if the diagnosis is important to you!


It is definitely important to me. After years of struggling to "fit in" within normal society, I still have a long way to go if I ever want to make sure not to have ackward social situations at work that can hold me back professionally. Also, my girlfriend still has a hard time adapting to my excentricities. A proper diagnosis could help me find the ways to deal with that and move on.

Korrigan Wrote:
We sought help from a different place after a GP dismissed my husband as "possibly having severe depression due to a thyroid problem as he wears all black all the time."  Um, yeah....


The black phase.... I had that when I was 17. Although I never really wore any typical goth outfits, I somewhat turned goth. I listened to goth music, dressed black and even wore black nail polish occasionally. It's a great way to vent depression or frustration and show it to the rest of the world Big Grin

atypical Wrote:
F.Y.I.   I have had 4 IQ tests, 154, when I was in 1st grade, 6th/8th grade 136/7 and 141 at age 18.


What is your profession, if I may ask?

atypical Wrote:
Looking back some members were really nice and they remind me of my aspie son - some social awkwardness but honest and interesting.  But the general mood was not unlike other groups or cliques, they don't accept new people, like a sort of suspiciousness - I didn't enjoy it, I was only 18 but typically I tended to get along better with older people, not in that case.


It's good to know I shouldn't keep my hopes up too high. Thanks for the enlightening info.

atypical Wrote:
I'll reiterate my position on IQ now, I think they are useless in general. My son does not test well and has number/math/counting isses but he is so smart, his IQ test came out only a bit over one hundred - he is way smarter than his test lets on.


IQ tests only one part of intelligence, mostly related to how one deals with language and/or maths. For someone who isn't talented in those areas, IQ tests don't really give an accurate image. Also, IQ doesn't tell much about ones flaws beyond the limits of how one deals with language and/or maths.

Joining Mensa would look good on my CV and might provide me with a partner to play the GIPF series games (my favorite board games) with. I would already be glad with that Big Grin

pikajedi4 Wrote:
what phase?

I've been dressing like that since I was about 11...bit longer that a phase, methinks.


How old are you now? What music do you listen to?

I tend to live in phases. For some years I'm completely obsessed by or indulged in something and then I move on to something different and I'm no longer interested in what was before. For example, I started collecting stamps, moved on to graphic novels, then MP3 files, then DVDs and now antiquarian books... but always to an obsessive degree. At some point I collected various things, but now only the antiquarian books are left. This results in a collection of about 1500 graphic novels, 200 Gb of MP3 files (consisting of almost every musical genre), 250 DVDs (mine and my girlfriend's combined) and several hundred antiquarian books and magazines. Almost all of my money goes to whatever I collect at a specific time.

pikajedi4 Wrote:
also, goth chicks rawk.


Oh yeah! Smile

pikajedi4 Wrote:
I am currently 18, and my musical tastes are growing ever more....heavy in nature.


Once you start working at an office, your lifestyle is likely to change due to dresscodes and all that. Few people manage to be goths during the evenings or weekends and "regular" people during the day Wink

pikajedi4 Wrote:
dresscodes?

I'm going into IT Big Grin


I'm an IT consultant. Although there is no explicit dress code in the company I work for, you are expected to blend in at whatever client you're sent to. It's one of the more social IT-jobs, though... I wouldn't recommend a consultancy job to other AS folks as it can be quite tricky to keep a job like that for folks like us. Nevertheless, it pays well.

There are many IT jobs where dress codes don't exist at all, though. If you want to have long hair and a pony tail, IT is definitely a good choice Smile

pikajedi4 Wrote:
if I have to follow a basic code, then black trousers, black shirt, black jacket, black shoes. problem solved Wink


In IT, it won't be hard to find a

pikajedi4 Wrote:
and anyway, who said the word "goth"? not I....


An all black outfit and "heavy" music is usually associated to goth subculture (like in my case). My mistake.

IlluSionS667 Wrote:
In IT, it won't be hard to find a


Damn lack of editing options....

In IT, it won't be hard to find a job without a dress code at all. I know people who work in a company like that.

pikajedi4 Wrote:
aye, but I dont expect to get to wear my leathers and chains, spikes and gloves.


If you're really lucky, you can find an employer where you can continue to wear such an outfit. Most people aren't that lucky, though.

It also depends on what job exactly you're doing. If you're a system admin or a software tester who never gets in contact with clients, your employer cares far less about your outfit than when you're a consultant who's always going to clients. The IT business is far more diverse than most people think.

pikajedi4 Wrote:
and yeah, I would really rather like to keep my hair Big Grin


I figured that Smile

pikajedi4 Wrote:
yeah, thats what I want to be; in a little room, in the basement of the building, emerging only to fix shit.


It's one of the more boring and less awarding jobs within IT, but it does have some benefits (especially if you're doing night shift and there's almost no one else in the building). It's not uncommon for system admins to play computer games, watch films or do other silly stuff at work when the pressure is low Big Grin

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