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Should we go with Tesla's idea of wirelessly beaming free electricity to everyone? Either by through the ground or the air. It would be a huge accomplishment, building the world's first fully operational Tesla Tower. Tesla tried to build one but it was not completed fully because of economic reasons.

"In June 1902, Tesla moved his laboratory operations from his Houston Street laboratory to Wardenclyffe. However, in 1903, when the tower structure was near completion, it was still not yet functional due to last-minute design changes. Tesla intended for the tower to demonstrate how the ionosphere could be used to provide free electricity to everyone without the need for power lines. Morgan, who could not foresee any financial gain from providing free electricity to everyone, balked. Construction costs eventually exceeded the money provided by Morgan, and additional financiers were reluctant to come forward.[4] By July 1904, Morgan (and the other investors) finally decided they would not provide any additional financing."

Unfortunate.
Anyone have an economic model that makes 'giving stuff away for nothing' profitable?  No?  Well, let me know when you do and we can get started on that.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
Anyone have an economic model that makes 'giving stuff away for nothing' profitable?  No?  Well, let me know when you do and we can get started on that.


We can fund it with taxes, patents, and other means.

Ian Wrote:
Be nice if his later theories actually worked.

Tesla proved wireless electricity is possible.

"Tesla spent his remaining funds on his other inventions and culminated his efforts in a major breakthrough in 1899 at Colorado Springs by transmitting 100 million volts of high-frequency electric power wirelessly over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor!"
http://www.braincourse.com/wirelessa.html

jiggeryqua Wrote:
We don't currently charge the end user for prison accomodation, directly - and yet we manage to provide a massive network, supplying ever-increasing numbers.


Hm, well if we could USE the end used of prison accomodations for supplying electric power, we would have an idea then, wouldn't we? Wink

You thinking like the Matrix, or just gigantic hamster wheels?  The wheels would be funnier...

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
You thinking like the Matrix, or just gigantic hamster wheels?  The wheels would be funnier...

(Looks terribly important while making this statement...)

I cannot be bothered with details.  You figure that part out.  Though the wheels would be amusing.  

Wink  Giggle!

Well, how would you keep random people from building receivers and leaching off your system?
Why not reverse power grid - with solar and wind? The electric company pays people who make more power than is used. (All the reast of the discussion is over my head ) I am probably asking a dumb question. Sorry I realize now this is off topic - I have no idea what wirelss electrical power is.
that is something that was discussed in another thread, how we would generate the power.

we still need someone to really go over it in depth though, although I have asked the OP if he would be interested.

honestjohn Wrote:
Why not reverse power grid - with solar and wind? The electric company pays people who make more power than is used. (All the reast of the discussion is over my head ) I am probably asking a dumb question. Sorry I realize now this is off topic - I have no idea what wirelss electrical power is.

"Wireless Electricity is something pioneered by Nikola Tesla, who discovered alternating current (AC) electricity. AS most geniuses experience, he had great difficulty convincing men of his time to believe in Wireless Electricity. Thomas Edison was in favor of direct current (DC) electricity and opposed AC electricity strenuously. Tesla eventually sold his rights to his alternating current patents to George Westinghouse for $1,000,000.

After paying off his investors, Tesla spent his remaining funds on his other inventions and culminated his efforts in a major breakthrough in 1899 at Colorado Springs by transmitting 100 million volts of high-frequency Wireless Electricity over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor! With this souped up version of his Tesla coil, Tesla claimed that only 5% of the transmitted energy was lost in the process. But broke of funds again, he looked for investors to back his project of broadcasting electric power in almost unlimited amounts to any point on the globe.

The method he would use to produce this Wireless Electricity was to employ the earth's own resonance with its specific vibrational frequency to conduct AC electricity via a large electric oscillator. When J.P. Morgan agreed to underwrite Tesla's project, a strange structure was begun and almost completed near Wardenclyffe in Long Island, N.Y. Looking like a huge lattice-like, wooden oil derrick with a mushroom cap, it had a total height of 200 feet. Then suddenly, Morgan withdrew his support to the project in 1906, and eventually the structure was dynamited and brought down in 1917.

A Tesla coil is a special transformer that can take the 110 volt electricity from your house and convert it rapidly to a great deal of high-voltage, high-frequency, low-amperage power. The high-frequency Wireless Electricity output of even a small Tesla coil can light up fluorescent tubes held several feet away without any wire connections. Even a large number of spent or discarded fluorescent tubes (their burned out cathodes are irrelevant) will light up if hung near a long wire running from a Tesla coil while using less than 100 watts drawn by the coil itself when plugged into an electrical outlet!

Since the Tesla coil steps up the voltage to such a high degree, the alternating oscillations achieve sufficient excitations within the tubes of gases to produce lighting at a minimal expense of original power! Fluorescent tubes can be held under high-tension wires to produce the same lighting up effect. Remember the farmer a few years ago who was caught with an adaptive transformer under a set of high tension lines that ran over his property? Through the air, he pulled down all the power he needed to run his farm without using any connecting apparatus to the lines overhead! Any electrical engineer with the proper materials can do the same thing."
http://www.electricityforum.com/wireless...icity.html

Tesla is believed to have Asperger's by the way. He definately fits the discription.

pikajedi4 Wrote:
that is something that was discussed in another thread, how we would generate the power.

we still need someone to really go over it in depth though, although I have asked the OP if he would be interested.

I think we should use 100% clean energy. Whether it be solar or whatever.

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