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How much advance warning are we talking about here?

Shnoing Wrote:

Korrigan Wrote:
Well we survived the visit.  It will be some time until the next one, I can tell you that...


May i suggest you write a 'survival guide to family dinners' Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin


Good idea, I will think on that!  Smile

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The stress this causes is ENORMOUS!  The whole routine of life is interrupted.  They "invade our home."  They "require entertainment."


I'm going to have to agree with that and vote "invasion".

Going to someone else's house is stressful, too, but not quite as bad, because they're not in -my- space.

I deal with it by avoidance, mostly. I had one sleepover, ever, and it was back back when I as in 5th grade.  Never repeated it for a reason. A couple weeks ago a coworker brought up the idea of her coming over for something, and I internally panicked. Thankfully, she changed her mind, and never did come over.

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I hate it when most people come to the door. I always feel violated and resentful,and consider it an invasion.


That too.  That's one reason why I'm not living in the apartments on-campus anymore.  Because there, if someone "official" wanted in, they'd knock, and then just come in (they had a key card that worked for all the rooms).

Once I stalled at that door for a long time, even to the point of holding it shut.  What's even more disturbing is knowing that they could come and go when I wasn't home, too. Many times I'd come home and something would be wrong, sometimes I couldn't tell what, but other times it was a light turned on that wasn't on when I left, or something moved, or a mark on the wall or floor that wasn't there before. Sometimes they'd leave notes explaining why they were here (pest control, room check ,etc) but more often than not, there was no note, just a feeling of wrongness and feeling out of control.

On more than one occasion I swore that I'd strip the next time they came in, 'cause my body's not exactly the type you'd want to see naked unexpectedly, lolBig Grin  Unfortunately, I never got the chance to. Rolleyes

I am no help.  We are phobic.  We only have two dining chairs, a double chaise instead of a couch.   We even turn the lights out and hide in the bedroom on Halloween.  But there was a time when I could handle those things pretty well.  I think you can get desensitized to it.  If I wasn't with an AS I would try to find a workaround, even if it was hard, whether it was fake migraines or back injuries or leaving to visit a sick friend or having out-of-the-room jobs like cooking, errands so my partner could people over.

     It's great for us to be able to live in an home of silence and safety, but that's no way for you to have to live all the time.  I hope you find a way to work around it somehow so he can tolerate it.  If I was NT I would not want to give up the connection you get from being able to have the people you care about in your home.  

    The other thing, with him thinking he wants socializing and then freaking out, I do it and my husband also does.  It's like this stupid denial delusion that your problems won't be there, like you get nostalgic for something you never even had.  I would ignore this as wishful thinking, even if you want to respect and believe him.  My husband and I are pretty brutal around this and burst any suspect "I want to see them, really" balloons as soon as we see them in each other.  It's more humane and it gives the person more time to mentally prepare for just how bad it's going to be.

The Heretic Wrote:
Korrigan, I can relate to what you were saying about how your husband wants to go places, or have visitors, but then has issues with it right beforehand.  I am the same way, and as hard as it is for the “other” person to understand, it’s just as difficult when you are the one having the issues.  It’s like there is some weird obstacle we have to cross going from what we would like to do, to the actual realization of having to follow through.  


We are getting to a better place with that.  I think now that I am more aware of the issues, I can be more proactive in watching the situations.  He is more aware too, and that makes us a better team.  Smile

The thing about this issue that mystifies me and my NT wife is that visitors stress me out, but they would never know it. If I can possibly avoid it, I will, but once they're here, I'm a good, friendly, engaging host. After they leave I tell my wife I'm exhausted from it. She looks at me, dumbfounded, and says, "You seemed fine."

Same thing on job interviews or meetings: Hate 'em, great at 'em. There's something about the closed-ended structure of these situations that works for me. I know how long it's going to last, so I know how long the performance will take.

Crap, that just reminded me of something. I was at a friends house when I was 16-years-old, and her uncle was there. He was a consultant for corporations that depened on his intuition. My knowledge of how his career worked is vague, but he told me straight-faced that he had this gift and was well paid for it. He came into the house, my friend introduced us, then I remained quiet while the family chatted. After 5 minutes he looked right at me and said, "You should head straight for Central Casting. You've been acting from the moment I laid eyes on you." The only time I had spoken was to say, "Nice to meet you." I just realized he had picked up on me performing my way through an uncomfortable setting. Weird.
I have recently been a guest and host. I take the 5th.
(Shhh....I know the 5th doesn't apply to Australian law)

Johanna Wrote:
It only causes me stress if I am not warned about it ahead of time. If I am told about someone visiting, I can prepare mentally for the visit. With mental preparation, a visit can actually be quite pleasant. If I am not told about it ahead of time and the visit is sprung on me as a surprise, then I get nervous and stressed because my routine has been interrupted without advance notice and because of extra attention on me. Then a visit that is meant to be pleasant is just an ordeal for me, which really sucks. I suppose that's one reason why I enjoy visits from my grandparents most because we e-mail each other regularly and I often get plenty of advance notice from them, so there is absolutely no way that it can be a surprise. It pisses off my mom, but it makes their visits more enjoyable for me.


We are doing better now Johanna.  I think it is the barbed wire and electric fences, all with signs that say "STAY OUT".  KIDDING!  Tongue

But I think we have come to a better understanding of it.  And we will have many less visitors.  The end conclusion has to be worth the effort, you know what I mean?

Johanna Wrote:
I see what you mean about coming to a compromise about the visits. If you feel like you want to see your friends more, I would recommend hanging out somewhere else while your husband does something else. This way, you can have the social interaction you need while your husband is less stressed.


Well, sometimes I think an island would be better for me.  I need very little social interaction.  By the time I am done at work for the day, in fact, I would prefer to be all alone with my family.  

The problem was more that he was suggesting the visits then freaking out!  Total mixed messages.  I have established a little more control with things.

Honestly, there are no better people in the world to spend my time with than my husband and daughter.  

Johanna Wrote:
Awwww.... have you told your husband and daughter that? I can see what you mean about the mixed messages. That can be pretty darn confusing.


I have, they are my favorite people EVER!  We have a pretty good groove going now, about guests and friends anyway.  

Actually, I have posted a lot about these kinds of things.  You might try and look at my "threads" rather than just my postings.  I have been sharing a lot about this journey we have been on.  Big Grin

The Heretic Wrote:
I was lucky enough once to have someone in my life who totally accepted me as I was, and even appreciated my "eccentricities".  Unfortunately his family didn't want me anywhere near him, and went out of their way to make it an issue at every opportunity.  He wasn't one of those who could stand up to his family, and I got tired of watching him suffer in the middle, so I ended the relationship.  I went through many relationships to find someone like him, and was glad to have had that experience, even if we couldn't work it out.  Smile


Oh, I could tell you some stories about some rather similar things.  Send me a PM!

Depends on whether I invite them or is organized by them in advance or they show up unannounced. Unannounced = Invasion unless it is realistic reason rather than I was just in the neighbourhood and decided to drop in. That was most irritating when I was just married for obvious reasons I had to make up for lost time so to speak. I'm sure the friends were coming around just to see if they could catch us out for their own amusement.
Mm, I'm going to be living in res with a bunch of other students soon.  I'm thinking I'm gonna need a alone-time sign.  Something like:

STOP!
Before you open the door, ask yourself:
Is my name <Roommate's name here>?
Did I knock?
Is the building on fire?
Are aliens invading?
If >2 of these things are true, do not open the door.
(Note that if a random person enters without knocking I will be forced to assume that the building is on fire and aliens are invading.)
..<2
I always get those mixed up.
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