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Welcome to the Forums Alias Pseudonym.

Why would a 'completely non-distractible state' be a non-aspie trait?

I've scored 160-185 on the aspie quiz. My sense of directions are also impeccable as is my balance.

I'm 42. How old are you?


Tomas

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
What I meant by non-distractible was that I can be pulled away from it and go right back--that's non-aspie, isn't it?




Maybe, I don't know. Autism is a spectrum of traits, some you may fit, some your wont. Maybe aspergers isn't quite right, maybe traits of autism may be be more on mark. It's a bit of an art, more than a science.

I love your writing, you're brilliant. Your writing is very relaxed, informal and off the cuff.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
Finally, I took some of you're aspie tests and they all say 'no you're not an aspie.'  So, assuming you care to read my tiny autobiography, do you think I am or not?  I'm really smart, maybe I'm just aping normal behavior well.


You definitely don't get any points for humility.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
What I meant by non-distractible was that I can be pulled away from it and go right back--that's non-aspie, isn't it?


I think it is non-Aspie.  Personally, if you pull me away from my hyperfocused state, it is very hard for me to get back into it.

I think you may be "gifted ADHD" instead, and the Asperger could be wrong.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
...  I've been officially diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome.  I'm not sure I actually have it, but I have.  I've also been diagnosed with AD-HD (which I definitely have) and Anxiety Disorder NOS (if never worrying about anything is an anxiety disorder, this is spot on.)

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It seems that either your ADHD messes up the online test results or you've been the 'victim' of a sort of 'fashion' among professionals to dx Asperger's if they don't know what to write down.

Even if - you're still welcome to write here.

That's a really good idea Yigal.

Good to see you are posting. Smile

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
Finally, I took some of you're aspie tests and they all say 'no you're not an aspie.'  So, assuming you care to read my tiny autobiography, do you think I am or not?  I'm really smart, maybe I'm just aping normal behavior well.


I don't know why people seem to keep insisting on this, but really I do not see why being exceptionally smart would allow you to mimic social behavior any better than an Aspie of average intelligence.

There are bright NTs who don't do too well socially.

I think your theory is incorrect.  Again, for the masses, if you happen to be very smart with Asperger's... the giftedness wouldn't necessarily compensate for social problems.  Trust me.

IncognitoInnominate Wrote:
hah... D is for DARK and i'm DONE.
Should of got a commendment. Nice.

i don't think aspies in general have a typicly bad sense of direction, varies through everyone AS or not.  But on the balance thing no Aspie male i have met can dance.  I tried... girls can though. (I think it's the limping thing in the left leg. gonna poll this.)


I have an incredibly bad sense of direction.  I am 26 and have lived in the same neighborhood my whole life, and I still cannot give anyone directions to anyone beyond a simple "go past this one light, take a left, keep going for a while" etc.  I still get lost in my own neighborhood.

I think a bad sense of direction is typical for Aspies.

Batman55 Wrote:

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
Finally, I took some of you're aspie tests and they all say 'no you're not an aspie.'  So, assuming you care to read my tiny autobiography, do you think I am or not?  I'm really smart, maybe I'm just aping normal behavior well.


I don't know why people seem to keep insisting on this, but really I do not see why being exceptionally smart would allow you to mimic social behavior any better than an Aspie of average intelligence.

There are bright NTs who don't do too well socially.

I think your theory is incorrect.  Again, for the masses, if you happen to be very smart with Asperger's... the giftedness wouldn't necessarily compensate for social problems.  Trust me.


I agree. There have been a number of autistic people considered to be quite intelligent who couldn't socialize for beans (possibly why we get the 'eccentric professor' stereotype). Academic skills won't do much for socialization, unless you happen to find yourself in a lot of academic clubs, where people are similarly nerdy, and because of mutual knowledge, the difference in social skills may not be so pronounced. But that's when talking about special interests, and even then you can go off on tangents and stand out from the rest.

As mentioned before, autism is a spectrum so that, there are some people who'll meet all the criteria, others who will meet some (but still enough for a diagnosis), and others who'll meet some but not enough for a diagnosis. Autistic traits aren't exclusively the domain of autistics, and that's how I think of the spectrum anyway - continuous, including autistic, not very autistic at all, and every place in between. In any case, you're still welcome on the boards. There are a number of us who have ADHD as well, and there are also NT members, so feel free to post here as much as you like.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
After think about this more than I have in, well, ever (and after gripping that there isn't an edit button to let me avoid double posting.) I've decided I don't have Asperger's Syndrome.  I have personality traits and abilities associated with it, but to have a syndrome you have to have symptoms, and after going over mine I realised all of them are associated with AD-HD rather than AS.


If you hadn't known, many people with ADHD have some traits and personality characteristics that overlap with Asperger's, in the first place.  Some researchers believe ADHD may be on the autistic spectrum.

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honestjohn Wrote:
I think (may be a controvesial thought) that alot of the kids classified as ADHD, are ADHD like, but not gentically born ADHD, the environment they are in makes them act as such. (parental techniques, starting a kid at school too soon, too much Tv at 1 year old etc., ) While there are many ADHD that no changes in parenting will change.  Just an opinion.  (whereas ASD is not a parent issue, in any cases, it has a physical/nuerological basis)  Nurture Vs. nature.


I would tend to agree with this, in some cases anyway.  

I've seen concern expressed in the media about the number of children dxed as ADHD and medicated when it may simply be the case that adults are failing to realise that children do have loads of energy and if they are denied the opportunity to run that energy off or express themselves as children should then their activities will become more destructive.  They say that children are given much less freedom these days just to be children and to enjoy unsupervised, or minimally supervised outdoor play.  Instead they are kept indoors and expected to act more like mini-adults than as children.  Medication is used to keep them placid and more controllable. Better to let them run about in the park for an afternoon and burn off all that energy!

Btw, I'm not saying this applies to all children dxed as ADHD, but quite possibly to some.


I think this is true for those who have been misdiagnosed with ADHD, while for people who the diagnosis fits probably wouldn't make any difference. Especially the school system, expects kids to have to sit still for way too long at a time.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
I don't think TV has anything to do with ADHD, honestly.  If anything, ADHD makes it easier to keep yourself entertained, or it certainly did for me.  It was about a five minute walk to my elementary school, but sometimes there would be little streams from melting snow, or blowing leaves or little frozen puddles in the gutters and I would end up playing games like breaking the ice in a particular order (actually the order was always 'whatever I felt like) and then I'd arrive at school two hours late to the great distress and puzzlement of all adults involved.

Also, I'm pretty sure ADHD has as solid a physical/neurological basis as ASD, check the wiki page.


I definitely agree with this.

On a related note, I think of myself as more of an AS/ADHD hybrid, although my ADHD is predominantly inattentive.

Oddly enough, classic ADHD meds like amphetamines overwhelm my senses, make me paranoid, euphoric, and hyper at low doses.  The effect I got from Ritalin was an absolute nightmare--the paranoia was extreme and would last for up to 5 hours.

outsideL00kinN Wrote:
I'm an AS/ADHD hybrid, too. My med experience was very different, though. I take Adderal 30mg 4x/d, and I get the classical ADHD paraxoxical effect with it - it calms me down. I was never physically hyperactive, though, just hyperactive in thought. The meds do not address the inattention, however - still as distractible as ever, just at a little slower pace.

This is another thing I wouldn't want to be "cured" of. If the "cure" is a sentence to be forever bored and to find most things uninteresting, why would I want that? Tongue


I don't quite understand you guys... I find a lot of things boring.  However I can entertain myself in my own head a lot, so I can see where you get the "ADHD kids entertain themselves better than NTs" etc... but some things are so boring and uninteresting to me, I cannot retain basic information about such topics.  Hence, the extreme difficulty I had in school... if I felt a topic was boring, I wouldn't learn anything.

Perhaps it is that the things which interest me, interest me MUCH more than the average person.  But the effect must be similar for things that bore me.  I do notice that I am drawn to examine as much visual stimuli in the environment as I can, I am always turning my head everywhere I go and "notice" more.

Question for outsidelookingin: why do you suppose that some people with inattentive ADHD (like me) don't get the paradoxical calming effect?  Could it perhaps be related to some physiological reason; perhaps an inherited sensitivity to the stimulant class of drugs, something like that?

Because my sensitivity to stimulants is unusual:  I get euphoric from average doses of caffeine.  Even just 10mg of Ritalin/Dexedrine is overpowering and not very calming at all, in fact it became dangerous for my health eventually.  But that's another story.

Stimulants usually excite my senses and increase anxiety.

I am confused.
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