Aspies For Freedom

I could be wrong on this one, but would contacting the ACLU or something be an option?  The concern in my mind being that if he was 17 at the time but they waited until he was 18 to serve the warrant, that does not magically make him 18 at the time of the incident.  

Another option...media coverage?

TheZach, you are a nasty bastard.  She came here asking for help and you have been rude and out of line.  Please do not choose to use your disability as a reason for acting like such an ass.

You are a horribly judgmental person, and I wish you would be quiet and leave her alone to let the other people help her.  

Sometimes it is preferable to just shut up rather than have diarrhea at the mouth like this.  

Aye, and mine is that his behavior was inappropriate.  

One of the most important things I have learned in my life, and maybe someday you will learn it too, is that if you do not have anything nice to say, say nothing at all.

This has nothing to do with whether or not you are NT or Aspie.  You are being cruel.  

While I understand that *there (I believe you mean they're or they are) not the people you want to be around, having such a poor attitude will leave you a lonely and hateful person.  Wait, you already seem to be...

You should really just refrain from posting on this thread, and possibly move yourself on over to a "Why I am a jerk" posting.  Maybe then we could understand why you are so damn mean.

Oh HonestJohn, all is well with me.  I just do not like the idea of someone coming on here and asking for help, and someone picking on them.  You may not agree with their actions, you may not want to help them, but the unnecessary meanness is just too much for me.

But thank you for the concern.  Though it is Monday, and I do hate Mondays...

I see no stupidity in this woman's concerns.  I see only a mother who is trying to do the best by her son and her whole family.  Someone who came here for help and support in what must be a very difficult and anxious time.

As we're talking now about what the Bible says, here's a verse for you to contemplate:

"Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only what is useful for building up, as there is need, so that your words may give grace to those who hear."  Ephesians 4:29

Well this forum really is ALL ABOUT YOU isn't it.  For goodness sake, Goddess forbid that you MIGHT actually be asked to be a decent human being.

At no time did I ask you to not have an opinion, at no time did I ask you to THINK anything.  Hold your opinions close and love them all you want.  All I have said, repeatedly, is that you should not attack and insult people at will.  

Your behavior is why people leave a forum like this.  She could have, once she got through her current situation, been a great contribution to the forum.  But you have chosen to ignore her potential assets and attack her and everyone who has chosen to stick up for her.  

Get a spell checker, a grammar checker, and an attitude checker.  Then take some time and perhaps consult a therapist near you to work on your anger issues.  This is not healthy behavior for anyone to have, and I sincerely doubt you would say any of these things to any of our faces.  You are a sad little boy hiding behind his PC screen where he can yell and scream at people all he wants to make himself feel better.  You are a sad person.

Pot, meet kettle.

Clearly, you're not prepared or able to listen to us or to the words of Saint Paul - a man who also got very angry on occasion, but was less abusive.

You've still not answered my question, but no matter.

Out of curiousity, what church is it that you're a member of?

TheZach, these were the posts, directed at the original poster, which I personally took offense to.  I attempted to get you to be quiet, but you kept digging.  

Please understand, those of us that were "attacking you" were defending the original person posting, who was here asking for help.

The reasoning for bringing up your Christianity was not to start any type of religious "pissing contest" but rather to point out that you have, repeatedly, professed your religious beliefs on the forum.  Many (obviously not you) Christian people have the beliefs that they should be open armed, forgiving, and kind to people, as Jesus would have done.  

This is obviously not you.  I doubt the original poster will return.  The damage has been done.  

I hope that you get the help you need to get things figured out TheZach.  I am sorry that you are so angry and sad.  

I am not saying I agree or disagree with the original poster.  I also will not say I agree or disagree with what TheZach is attempting to say (through insults). However, it was the horrid way it was said to her that bothered me.  Why be so cruel, when someone is asking for help.

The only reason for bringing up the religious angle was that TheZach has proclaimed his religious affiliation repeatedly and his comments and attitude fly in the face of any "Christian" thought.

I think that the original poster will run far away after the insults and such.  I hope she gets the help she needs to work it out.

I also hope TheZach gets some therapy or other help for his anger issues.

I've just pmed the lady who started this thread to wish her well, to apologise for the way things have gone and expressing the hope that she did get some useful advice and support from this forum.  

I have absolutely no idea how the American criminal justice system works, but in Scotland it is normal for background reports to be prepared and taken into account in sentencing.  This lady is not denying what her son did, or that it was wrong.  What she is seeking to do is to have her son's life-long and on-going difficulties taken into account.  I don't see that she is simply using a "label" to excuse or exonerate her son, rather she is seeking recognition and acknowledgement by the system of her son's particular personality, understanding of the world, probable immaturity and inexperience in spending time with other boys of his own age.

Personally, I'm feeling quite exasperated by the lack of sympathy shown to this lady, her son and their situation - which is quite horrific.  It is proposed that her 19 year old Aspie son be jailed and then deported!  Whatever you feel about the crime of blowing up tree stumps do you not think that the proposed punishment is completely disproportionate?

On other threads on AFF there is much talk of increasing awareness, seeking support and reasonable accommodations in school, college and the workplace for people on the spectrum.  I fail to understand why it is felt that similar understanding, awareness, support and accommodations should be denied this boy/young man...

I accept responsibility for bringing religion into this particular thread, in reponse to the above post of TheZach's.  He has made it clear on other threads that he calls himself a Christian.  I also am a Christian, I was shocked by his comments and asked him how this attitude could be seen to reflect Christ.  At no time did I insult TheZach and throughout this thread I have expressed sympathy for the plight of the original poster who came here looking for help, which she has received from some members.

TheZach responded to my comments by extending his name-calling to me and to others who also tried to make him see that his comments were not only less than helpful, but were also insulting - to all who came into his path it seems.

I have pmed the original poster to apologise for what happened and to express my sympathy and support for her, her son and her family.

I have no intention to apologise to TheZach as I see no need for me to do so.  Regardless of faith, he was insulting to many on this forum and steadfastly refuses to acknowledge that he has done any wrong.

I am glad to see that there are still some on this forum who appreciate the predicament of the original poster and who wish to help rather than condemn her.  I've already expressed my views on the lack of sympathy or understanding shown by some posters and don't intend to repeat them.

These are my last words on this thread.  TheZach called me stupid and accused me of laziness.  I consider that to be name-calling, offensive and immature.  If that is acceptable behaviour on this forum then I am disappointed, to put it mildly.