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Lili Marlene Wrote:
Is Jim Carrey the autistic child's natural father?


LiliMarlene,
  No; John Asher, who directed JMC in "Diamonds" and later married her, is the child's father.

Lili Marlene Wrote:
Is he that actor who does the really, really weird and exaggerated body language?


  That's him. Annoying, ain't he?  Wink

Lili Marlene Wrote:
If he is that actor, I've been wondering for years if he is on the spectrum, or maybe subclinical Tourettes, or both. Certainly doesn't seem neurotypical to me.


  No, he doesn't.

  Then again, his idol, Andy Kaufman, was thought to be autistic; I wonder if Carrey knows that about Kaufman, and if so, would it change his viewpoint about autism?

  -BobB

Timelord Wrote:

morning_after Wrote:
Well, a protest is good, but what about the image?

Is it me, or is this all based on the idea that autistic people are broken?

I think someone should also try to deal with that stereotype.


What could McCarthy do when faced with a group of Aspies with lives (whatever they are) who calmly inform her that they are on the Spectrum and proud of it, and politely ask her to stop delaying the real understanding of Autism.

She'll blow her stack, come out with a stream of abuse - right in front of her precious cameras - and all we have to do is keep our cool, and maybe laugh at her.

Who'd end up getting the bad press then? Wink


Timelord,
  Let's set it up!!!  Big Grin

  -BobB

Timelord Wrote:
If only I lived in the United States or even North America, Bob!


Timelord,
  Excuses, excuses...  Big Grin

  (Ok, I keep forgetting that this is a worldwide site...)

  -BobB

I feel an epic film when Jennys Lies are finally revealed.

morning_after Wrote:

TheZach Wrote:
I feel an epic film when Jennys Lies are finally revealed.


Um... that picture makes it look like it would be porn, so it wouldn't work Tongue.


She decided to over dramatize it with some Bullshit and drama, why cant we overdramatize it with T 'n A!

Natalie Wrote:
Is Jenny McCarthy supposed to be considered "hot" to the average heterosexual male? I always thought she kind of looked like a transvestite (i.e., she has a very masculine facial structure).


I think shes ugly.

morning_after Wrote:

BobB Wrote:
  Then again, his idol, Andy Kaufman, was thought to be autistic; I wonder if Carrey knows that about Kaufman, and if so, would it change his viewpoint about autism?

I think he does.  He played Andy Kaufman in "Man on the Moon".  He would have had to do some research on the guy to pull it off.


morning_after,
  Yeah, but had the possibility of Andy Kaufman being autistic been raised at that point? Carrey undoubtedly did a *lot* of research, but that might not have been available to him while he was doing it...  Smile

  -BobB

TheZach Wrote:

Natalie Wrote:
Is Jenny McCarthy supposed to be considered "hot" to the average heterosexual male? I always thought she kind of looked like a transvestite (i.e., she has a very masculine facial structure).

I think shes ugly.


TheZach,
  Evidently, Larry King thinks so, too...  Big Grin

  -BobB

M Wrote:
I wonder if she gets paid to go on these shows and scream about autism and mercury?  Does anyone know?


My guess is she was compensated quite well by CNN

Joker Wrote:
I wonder how well recieved personal attacks on anti-cure supporters are viewed by the anti-cure side? I think about as well as attacks on pro-cure supporters are seen by the pro-cure side. I wonder also about how allegations of bribery, and other criminal activities are seen?

Do you just want to sling mud back and forth, or do you want to make a difference?

This kind of crap is really selling yourselves short.


Joker,
  Have you noticed that the *vast majority* of 'pro-cure' people are NT's, and that the *vast majority* of 'anti-cure' people are autistic?

  Now, if we as autistics - the people that the 'pro-cure' people are *supposedly* speaking for - are *against* a cure, shouldn't that give the 'pro-cure' types a *little* bit of a clue that they might *not* be doing the Right Thing?

  If the curebies *respected* us as people, I could see my way clear to giving them the benefit of the doubt. As it is, though, Autism Speaks and their ilk go barging along with *no* regard for *our* point of view!

  Since we're the ones who are autistic, I think it's *their* responsibility to respect *us*, i.e., drop all their patronizing crap!

  -BobB

Hmm after reading all these posts... and looking through that website (I also watched a bit of that CNN thing) I STILL don't know whats up with all that... to my knowledge Autism has no cure... although there have been documented reports of children diagnosed with Autism who have "seemed" to "recover" from their Autism... idk what to think about that... maybe it happens maybe its all a ruse... who knows... Me I don't know what to think about her other than the fact that she likes attention.
(as for the autism speaks page... it has its uses...but I agree that their take on "finding a cure for autism...and autism NEEDS to be cured" is really a bit too much. =s

TTFN
Me

M Wrote:
I criticized the prenatal test for Down's and one woman pointed out to me that she would never consider an abortion.  She said that the positive Down's diagnosis helped schedule a surgery that her daughter needed.  But really the "preparing" for a child with Down's is just a coverup.  Necessary surgeries can always be scheduled just as some doctor's schedule cesarian sections at their convenience.  

Newborns are routinely screened for hearing problems and other ailments because I suppose that our society values those people more than others.  There should be nothing wrong with a post natal test for Down's.  

I do not support with prenatal testing for autism.  "Time to prepare for a child with autism" is just a coverup.  

We actually starting talking about something more disgusting than Jenny McCarthy's behaviour.


I was offered a pre-natal test for Downs which I refused. My view was that why would I undergo a test which increases the risk of miscarriage and is less than 100% accurate in telling me something that I would find out anyway when the baby was born!

Time to prepare is nonsense in my opinion.  It may be though, that I am less idealistic or optomistic in such situations than others are.  All through my pregnancy I took one day at a time on the basis that "there is many a slip twixt cup and lip".  In other words, I knew there is no guarantee of a successful pregnancy and healthy baby.

As it happened I had to go into hospital a month early to have my son who spent the first month of his life in the Special Care Baby Unit.  Lots of people said that was so sad and not what I must have expected or dreamed about.  But I hadn't expected or dreamed about anything...I just took things as they happened.

I seem to be unusual, though, in having that attitude.  Many people seem to visualise a perfect baby, followed by a perfect toddlerhood and so on.  If you expect everything to be perfect, maybe that makes you more likely to look for a pre-natal test and have an abortion based on the results.Sad

Sorry - bit rambling...Smile

morning_after Wrote:
But maybe parents who expect everything to be perfect should get their heads out of the clouds.

That's blunt, I know.  But there is no such thing as the "perfect" baby.  Everyone has something and should be loved for who there are.


Exactly!  Well said! Smile

morning_after Wrote:
Everybody has something.  I think the main problem is that our society revolves around fear.  We are scared of what we don't understand, and some people are scared to try to understand what they don't understand.


I very much agree with this.  In fact, I was talking about this very issue - fear of the other and fear of what is unfamiliar or what we don't understand - with my mother this afternoon!  You would think that with the internet and quick and easy communication across the world we would be less afraid of each other, but the opposite seems to be happening - and I think politicians encourage us to be fearful and suspicious of each other.  It's very sad.Sad

Jenna and Jim McCarthey-Carrey are at it again.  tacanow.org??(talk about curing autism now.) A rally in Washington DC on June 4th. YIKES!
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