Aspies For Freedom

Well, up to you - but I've debated him - and he is a lost cause in my book.

That's OK, Lucie - but as I explained to Joker, that's how the media works. If you don't sling mud, they don't want to know you. The reality is the media LOVE McCarthy BECAUSE she's slinging mud. It's controversial. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter to them - it's news and that's all that matters.

I know that might not make sense or seem right to you - and you're right. But that's the reality of the electronic media unfortunately.

As far as educating goes - she's been brainwashed by Generation Rescue, the crew that created John Best Junior. You can't talk to McCarthy any more than you can talk to Best. It will take a reality check in their children to convince them otherwise - not education because they are too far gone to be helped.

As much as that is an appealling thought, Morning - and believe me I hope your right - unfortunately because McCarthy has been brainwashed by Generation Rescue I doubt what you have suggested will happen.

Hey, Bard Wolf, can you provide evidence of that? Because if it's true it's evidence that Evan is STILL ON THE SPECTRUM!

Already been tried, and guess what? It's been drowned in "mud". One has to be aggressive, otherwise it will just be ignored as weak and boring.

I didn't even hear that figure, but either way it's downright disgusting.

Disgusting!!!!!

Whilst that is certainly true, M, her behaviour comes from the very attitude that leads to this sort of thinking. I'd be willing to bet that if she was pregnant with a Downs kid, she'd abort. John Best Junior's wife would as well IMO.

Tigger, the solution to that - really - is to ban abortions, except in the cases of medical emergency (a threat to the life of the mother), or in the case of a pregnancy resulting from a rape. And in the case of the latter it can only go ahead with a report to the police of the said rape, and carrying it through to conclusion.

OK, that may be extreme to some members - but that's the way I see it.

I know. This is one occasion the world can do without left wing feminists demanding freedom of choice and a touch of promiscuity - and sub it for common sense and responsibility. Per se.

On rape - I don't agree. Reason being the rapist is the father, and having to give access to the child represents additional psychological trauma for the mother. Just knowing the child is a result of a rape would be traumatic enough I would have thought.

Left wing feminists are hardly rational and are not true feminists at all. You're right with your definition of a true feminist. It is usually the moderates like that who quietly picket abortion clinics. The left wingers take the view that pregnancy gives power to the father, so to take it back (and be equal - <-said sarcastically) they abort the pregnancy. Now here's where the rape argument comes in again. A rape is when the female has no choice. That's when I'll defend an abortion because it's not the pregnancy that caused the loss of power (so to speak). But in all other cases, the female was a willing participant, and should face the consequences of THAT choice.

I agree re the other situation - and that's pretty much what I meant anyway.

True, but the mother still has to live with the fact that her child was fathered by a......well let's just say I can't think of the appropriate low word.

M's right about the time limit, although I was talking about a rape being a good reason for abortion - not about the relationship between the mother and father of the baby after birth (and least until the subject shifted that way). And the fact that the rape must be reported in order to get the abortion on those grounds. Add to that the natural time limit of a safe abortion.

I don't think this subject will ned up in flames, Atypical. I get the feeling there's a general aversion to abortion and rape on this board.

END up in flames! Edit button!!!!!!!!

If I have time, I'll do it.