Well, NTs rarely get together and "discuss what it's like to be NT", or try to "Define what it means to be NT", or have forum communities to debate "NT issues against AS issues" or decide "Who is the real NT" etc. (Although.... it WOULD be amusing....)
Yes you are right, they hold just as many crappy elitist views as Aspies do, but "NTism" doesn't get discussed in the way that autism does, you don't normally see serious articles about how "NTs should have rights".
When things like rights are discussed, in most people's minds, that includes humans, not just NTs. Of course there's always going to be some narrow-minded or nasty person who will be heard saying that autistics don't have rights or shouldn't have rights, but then you hear similar things about pretty much anyone at some point or other (be that other races, NTs, people with disabilities and so on). That does not mean it is representative of what everyone else thinks, though.
The kinds of potentially elitist views NTs have of themselves as being NTs (not white, black, Asian, Dyslexic etc.), on the same levels as Aspies and Auties do, are not discussed within a comparable frame, so they do not stand out in the same way.
(If similar things are voiced within discussions of race however, then just wait and see how long someone gets away with saying "Race Y never get any of those problems, if you say that Race Y can have difficulty with certain things, well that is just not true, you must be a liar" etc. etc. before they are called racist!)
Oh yes, he certainly is. He has to be, since he would be proven wrong about autism being such a terrible thing, if he did not have ways of discrediting those autistics who are not as burdened as to agree with im!
All I'm saying is that his is not the only view that is based on overgeneralisations. Very extreme views rarely are based on logic.
ROFL thanks for that Amy :lol:
I have nothing against NTs in general, but I do have great difficulty in finding much value in, say, your average bunch of chart-hit bopping weekend drunk "townies". (Is "townies" a national term used for herds of scantily clad people who get drunk and vomit in city and town centres every weekend, or is it just a local thing?)
Sorry, that was not my intention at all! (I was merely comparing HIS extremist views with their "equivalent" from the other side, e.g. from aspie or autistic people, to make it easier to see what I meant, and to show that the views expressed are not that dissimilar to what most people on here are saying or wanting, just more extreme and viewed from a different angle, with different motivations etc.)
I merely pointed out that your summary of what you believed his views were (what he was trying to say) did not seem true.
He does not content that Aspies exist (you said in your post that he was denying we exist or something like that), he merely contends that they are representative of "autism" in the same way as the children he is trying to get funding for.
I.e. his view of "real autism" is limited to the most severe "classical" autism (in the same way that a very few people, none of which posting actively on this forum as far as I am aware, try to limit "real aspies" to people without any problems at all), which considering Kanner's original patients, does not really exist as even without intervention, many who seemed very "severe" as small children do develop language etc.
His views are founded on the belief that ABA and other therapies cause developmental progress in autistic children, which is not true in that sense (the same is said for GF/CF diets and I don't doubt they help some people, but many autistic kids have developmental "leaps" at specific ages REGARDLESS, so I don't think the intervention can take the laurels in most cases.
While I am sure that SOME do profit from specific interventions that ameliorate sensory issues, and while I am sure many do benefit from some SUITABLE intervention to teach coping skills and social skills or help them acquire new skills, the fact that most of these "miracles" that ABA and other things claim to have created happen the world over in kids WITHOUT such drastic intervention speaks volumes, IMHO.