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You can actually come to think of people who have the tone of voice and all as kind of cool, because it does not mean they are actually oriented.

And since God has the problem if a gay person acts on feelings, not me, I'd prefer to leave that between the two of them.  All the sexual restrictions of Leviticus only make sense to me in a heterosexual perspective.
If I was gay, I would think it unfair of God to have removed my appreciation for women, substituted an appreciation for men, and told me I could not have it.  

I would feel like a black person not welcome on the love boat, the love boat being for whites (straights) only.

I would be mad at God in far deeper ways than I am by having Asperger.
I am fortunate that I am only Asperger, and that I seem to have a woman's interest since December.  (At least for a $100 dinner for two at a DC soul food restaurant and another $50 dinner for two at an Alexandria steak and brew, and it seems she might want to buy a airline ticket to travel with me to my family reunion in June)
"I don't care what they say I won't live in a world without love"

it is a sad fact for religious folks but 9 times out of 10, when people have to choose between love of a mate and love of God, they choose the mate.

GuessWho Wrote:
If I was gay, I would think it unfair of God to have removed my appreciation for women, substituted an appreciation for men, and told me I could not have it.  


Really, only Your Version of god 'says' this, Chris.
God may work in mysterious ways-but frankly the above paints a picture of a rather sadistic fellow. The idea of a Scary Unfair God certainly doesn't appeal to me at all.  I wouldn't choose that such a being have much influence in my life...

Happily, there are churches filled with people who believe that god 'wrote the book of Love" and they open their doors and hearts to everyone-including gay people.
( eye opening shocking statement alert--Even gay couples)

And a Christian would admit as such, anti-progressive

at least myself, saved at 23, after agreeing that gay rights are quite reasonable and fair

Wondering1 Wrote:
If your God is infinitely good and wise then why is he so anti-progressive?Tongue

The only problem with that is that the Bible's first couple of chapters are pretty well written in such a way a lawyer couldn't argue with it.

If you presume the Bible was dictated by God to a bunch of men, how can you argue with, debate, or try to negotiate with language that says, man, don't lie with a man like a man lies with a woman.  

Seems to me that kills scriptural legitimation for the whole gay rights movement, gay marriages performed, etc.

That is not the same thing as love everybody.  Love everybody without regard to what they do. That IS IN THE BIBLE!

Mahler5 Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
If I was gay, I would think it unfair of God to have removed my appreciation for women, substituted an appreciation for men, and told me I could not have it.  


Really, only Your Version of god 'says' this, Chris.
God may work in mysterious ways-but frankly the above paints a picture of a rather sadistic fellow. The idea of a Scary Unfair God certainly doesn't appeal to me at all.  I wouldn't choose that such a being have much influence in my life...

Happily, there are churches filled with people who believe that god 'wrote the book of Love" and they open their doors and hearts to everyone-including gay people.
( eye opening shocking statement alert--Even gay couples)

On the other hand, Wondering1, I might not like everything in the Bible, but God put it in there, and as a Christian, God is my boss.
As a virgin I think sex in general is the least bit wierd, even the traditional kind.  I think a lot of heterosexuals who would tolerate homosexuality would consider it wierd, though, too.
A. putting one's male member where feces come out on a routine basis or
B. sucking on it in one's mouth

It just seems gross to me, that's all.  But that's not saying too much as I think the female orafice drooling a lot is also a put off, I mean, to a total virgin.

so sweet you make my mouth water
I want candy
  Bow Wow Wow

And I suppose male ejacuate to a woman is like the worst sneeze snot into her private space, uh, gross too, esp. to a virgin

I think gross comes to mind to a lot of people who have never tried sex.  If heterosexuals have never tried gay sex, I think they can be excused for their private feelings on the matter.

But it is not the same thing as having a mental illness.
And something else for a female virgin to consider, what's appealing about having a part of her anatomy torn open (gently I hope) with blood running?

Be gentle, indeed!
I wonder if women, on average, aren't more civilized than men.  Perhaps lesbianism is for the best, privately thinking.
I mean, either men commit most of the violent crime or we punish men far more often.  Yes, mothers can kill children and lesbians can abuse one another, but it is far less heard of than men killing children or men abusing wives and girlfriends.
Some women like anal sex (dare I say, Ripley's Believe It or Not)

I hope Max is OK, too.

Methinks God made the rules too inflexible for the non-heterosexuals amongst us.  If you're not a Christian what you think of what God thinks doesn't matter, but I think homosexual believers need to decide where they stand, especially as they cannot negotiate with a book that was written long before any of us were born.

I've read Leviticus and it was written for a lawyer, it's just too damn specific.  

Position statement: I can make it and leave it alone:

I believe there is some power and mysticism to the Holy Spirit, but the religion does not tolerate homosexual sexual activity.  I wish Christianity had a provision for gay marriage, too, because I think it is only even handed and just to let other people have the same thing we Christians take for granted.  The Bible is too well written however, and the holy book, and therefore the issue, is non negotiable.  Any sex outside of or before marriage is a mistake, something to try to talk someone out of, not a sin to laugh at.  The entire non-sexual gay rights agenda is probably valid and Christian, and prejudice or discrimination or abusive behavior is not Christian love.
Eek!!  I never had the "talk"--my parents never gave it to me.  They only hinted at certain things, but no talk was provided.  However, around 7th grade (near the end of primary school for those who don't know what this is) the school "explained it all to us" and our parents were notified that we were learning sex-ed.  I also picked up a few things before that time from one or two friends--one of which was given the talk--but they were reluctant to share with me, for some reason.

I learned this stuff a lot later than most kids, probably because I didn't have much social exposure.
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