No. I was making a small joke in reference to Freud's silly theories.
You take it too far. It is a quote. It is a phrase. It is not meant to be taken literally. I do not believe that we should treat children callously. I recognise that some may need more help than others. The ultimate goal, however, is not normalisation but rather adaptation. It need not destroy the personality in the process. I did not mean enormous kicks to the gut, perhaps little ones. If you let a child become too dependent...what happens when you are gone? When you are no longer able to help them? I have known this to be the case, where a parent has died in accident or from natural causes...then what? The child is lost. The child may be intellectually sound or gifted, but how is the child to survive in the real and general world if it has not developed the social skills? Not learnt to deal with the good as well as bad? You cannot expect to be allowed to live life easily. Nor should it be cruel and humiliating. It should simply be real.
Perhaps it is a cultural difference, though I doubt it. I was forced to socialise, forced to adapt. My parents were terribly abusive, verbally and often physically. I was forced to do so many things that I hated. I am, in my opinion, for more capable and stronger for it. I came to the point where I wanted to kill myself several times. I did not. There are ways of thinking, even under enormous pressure, that redeem your situation.
You take it too far. It is a quote. It is a phrase. It is not meant to be taken literally. I do not believe that we should treat children callously. I recognise that some may need more help than others. The ultimate goal, however, is not normalisation but rather adaptation. It need not destroy the personality in the process. I did not mean enormous kicks to the gut, perhaps little ones. If you let a child become too dependent...what happens when you are gone? When you are no longer able to help them? I have known this to be the case, where a parent has died in accident or from natural causes...then what? The child is lost. The child may be intellectually sound or gifted, but how is the child to survive in the real and general world if it has not developed the social skills? Not learnt to deal with the good as well as bad? You cannot expect to be allowed to live life easily. Nor should it be cruel and humiliating. It should simply be real.
Perhaps it is a cultural difference, though I doubt it. I was forced to socialise, forced to adapt. My parents were terribly abusive, verbally and often physically. I was forced to do so many things that I hated. I am, in my opinion, for more capable and stronger for it. I came to the point where I wanted to kill myself several times. I did not. There are ways of thinking, even under enormous pressure, that redeem your situation.
Unless I had been sent to some kind of "childhood boot camp," there was not much they could have done for me. My mother did not permit my father to physically abuse me, and there are laws against that here anyway, and it is taken very seriously. I was verbally abused instead, but perhaps unlike Wondering1, all the abuse did was make me worse. Because my parents never knew that they or I have AS (everyone in my family of four is somehow affected by it), they just became confused and eventually unsure of what they could do to me that would work. Because anything they tried, failed.
Force did not work either. You could not "force" me to do anything.
I do not think that parents have the right to abuse their children. I do think it moral that they force their children to be independent. This does not imply force, simply forceful language or instruction. Parents are not around forever.
You did stumble onto something that may be affecting this, though--I am not getting outside the house enough, getting enough exercise, and so on. Seems to keep my mood lower than it should be.
Well. There it is. Go and exercise.