Aspies For Freedom

In another thread, you folks have said my creativity is an indication that I have intelligence, despite my claims to the contrary.  Tonight I just realized my creativity is probably the result of very slow-processing speed, executive dysfunction, and learning challenges...  all of which, combined, results in me taking significantly longer time to "capture" details than the average person.  In so doing, I can detect patterns and see associations in things, that other people might just skip right past because faster processing speed usually just takes the necessary data.

I said in another thread tonight that this kind of intelligence does not "count," because it's the result of a seriously flawed brain.  What's more, how can you use this kind of creativity in a productive or meaningful way, if you don't have the executive functions or the processing power to "go the distance" ?  This has been my life experience... the ideas are there, but the ability to start, execute, and complete is almost entirely missing.  So I feel this does not count and it certainly does not make me "intelligent."

I still am looking for the reason I have been brought into existence.  I don't believe I will "fall back" on being a righteous human being in absence of anything that works properly in my brain.  Ever stop to ask yourself why learning disabled people are the nicest folks you'll ever meet?

Gee....  I wonder  

It doesn't count, still.  If it's not useable for anything other than personal eccentricity (which cannot achieve much), it does not count as intelligence.  Intelligence is defined by the standards set by the "average person and above" in society.  I'm afraid personal eccentricity does not fit the bill for intelligence anymore--if it ever did.

Why haven't more people posted on this thread?

Anyway, I'm beginning to think that eugenic elimination of the learning disabled like me, might be a good idea.  The world doesn't have a use for us, anymore.

That is the position of the brighter people in society, and they have done a good job of it.  They've certainly convinced me that I've got nothing to offer.  They haven't reached out to me and said, "I want YOU Batman, because your extra slow processing speed is what we need more of."

No, you have a better kind of intelligence than I do.  You have a college degree in something.

I don't know if you have executive dysfunction or not, but it pretty much takes away my ability to plan anything.

Where I live, in affluent, posh suburbs, to have value you generally need a degree in something.  Much of my inferiority comes from living where I do... it's a well-to-do area and a lot of families tend to send their kids to expensive private schools, they flourish, and then they go on to decent colleges, get the degree.  Then I'm left in the dust, being compared by my parents to all my childhood friends who went to good schools and now have $50,000+ jobs.  The problem is, I could not possibly be any different/less intelligent than these childhood friends I'm being compared with.  It is not a fair comparison.

You've not shown anything but unrealistic positivity with me.  It would be more realistic for the people here to say I belong in a discard bin for those who have no use to society.  I've indicated lack of skills in all but a couple narrow areas, I cannot complete the most simple tasks reliably, I can't learn properly or retain what I learn.  To say that you are the same, quickduck, is a bit of an exaggeration--a college degree... at the least.. indicates that you have a more flexible skill profile than I do.  Flexibility = adaptation = intelligence.

That's a great suggestion and something I've been pondering for a while.  If someone could provide the "get it done" part for me, it's possible I could have some decent contributions.  After all.. aren't some authors doing this now, anyway?  They provide the basic plot/outline of a story, and give it to a team of writers to flesh it out.

Hmm, perhaps I'm not understanding what you mean in this example...  I don't get what you're saying, in other words.

Well on the first point, as to whether or not I have PDD, I think it's safe to say that I do.  I'm not sure a strict diagnostician would say I have Asperger's... it seems stereotypes still affect diagnosis, in which case I have little chance of getting the AS diagnosis.  But I am sure I at least have "some kind" of PDD, as everything with me has been lagging many years behind my age group.  At least on that basis, it would be hard to convince anyone that I don't have PDD.

And.. what do you mean by experiential learning?  I'm not sure why you think socializing with others in my age group would help with my inferiority complex, etc.

As far as using academic ability to measure intelligence, that's done all the time at least where I live.  Where I live, people generally seem to be judged on the merit of their accomplishments, esp. academic achievements.  Basic conversation about college, where I live:  "X or Y person went to X or Y Good College and finished on time, achieved well on the debate team, and was a RA who was also dean-listed.  He's always been very bright."

But I've never overheard a conversation that says "X or Y person did not go to college, did poorly in high school with no extracurriculars, lacks cognitive flexibility, cannot plan anything beyond 5 minutes, and has achieved nothing.  He's always been very bright."

See what I mean?  

I find, with me, it often makes it worse.

As far as "working in a college"--what exactly would I be doing?

I don't have any skills.

I don't either. If you are really bright, you don't need to go to college to prove it.

It's possible to live with a person of the opposite sex without any hanky panky. Also, even if there is, it's still possible to do it at any time.

Or put down some dark coloured towels. I don't think you can have an anniversary unless it is a full year.

But look, we've seen you say it about 150 times already. Just let us know when the 9th anniversary ticks over.

I'm not bright, and also very poor in academics.  In other words, the way I'd be able to prove my intelligence--by going to college--is something I don't have the ability to do.