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Hello.  Thank you for reading this post.  I am (sort of) a teacher in California.  Recently, Governor Schwarzenegger, aka.  "The Groppenfuhrer", has decided to create a budget emergency that probably does not really exist.  He has used this creation to decimate our educational system yet further.  His ultimate aim is power of course, as is that of the people behind the scenes who brought him to power in our State.  Needless to say, the average person in California is an idiot for letting this happen, for not using their intelligence.

However, it has happened.  Thus, we need a radical remedy in the United States.  Those of you in other countries beware, and do not be deceived in to following the model we have followed in the last two decades.  Yet, I say again, it has happened.  Therefore, we need a remedy.

Here is my proposal for the United States as a radical reform of education:

1) Lower the voting age to 14.  Children need power, real power.  I do not believe that democracy can afford to exclude the powerless

2) Destroy the position of "Administrator" entirely.  Replace this position with democratic councils of teachers, parents and students.  Keep bought and paid for politicians out of it all

3) Teach real mathematics and science.  In other words, LOGICAL THINKING as opposed to "constructivism"

4) Abolish the current over-reliance on standardized tests.  If it is necessary to tell the Federal government that we are not obligated by their un-Constitutional NCLB law, then so be it.  They can keep their Federal money.  If we do this right, we won't need it.  It is our money, really, not theirs.  Taxes come from us, right?

5) Recall Schwarzenegger just like Governor Davis was recalled.  Prevent another Governorship of his type by passing an Amendment to the State Constitution forbidding any celebrity from holding public office (only partly joking), at least until they have served real time in the LA jail for DUI instead of probation (not joking at all)

6) No more "educational consultants".  They are a scam that has cost our State untold millions, if not hundreds of millions

7) Abolish teacher colleges.  Let teaching be a vocation, one in which the Degree earned is in the subject taught.  Training can be done on-site

8) Real punishment for misbehavior on the part of students

9) Drastic attention to the drop-out rate.  No more statistical frauds that cover up the high dropout rate

10)Real campaign finance reform to reign in powerful interests who have turned our country in to a cash cow.  Again, no more "educational consultants"

11)No more radical sexual agendas in the schools.  If we do not have any religion taught in the classroom (indeed, we shouldn't have any one religion privileged in the classroom, as political Fundamentalists desire), then we should also not have sexual agendas that undermine parental rights.    Imposing particular religions and imposing radical sexual agendas are both wrong for the same reasons, as they both undermine parental rights.

12)Real Social Studies.  Teach that democracy was not handed to us by the Founding Fathers, many of whom opposed democracy.  It came because of the struggles of labor unions, abolitionists, civil rights activists, and unpopular minorities

13)Respect for teachers.  If you don't respect the teacher, you don't deserve the benefits of education.  I'm talking to parents, by the way, not the children

14)Teachers need to have a basic competency in their subjects.  If you can't add fractions, you need some remedial training before you enter the Elementary School classroom.  That training should be provided.  I went through a whole Elementary School math methods class, one in which I was the only one who could add fractions.  The teacher considered me a trouble maker, and gave better marks to those who believed in her educational philosophy, even though they could not multiply and divide fractions

15)More schools, less prisons.  

OK, some of these may sound a little overly political.  However, I have saved the best part for last.  This is where there is a strong relevance to an "Aspie" Forum.  Here goes:

*****All Star Proposal *****) A real Special Ed program that emphasizes each student doing the best  that they can to master the educational process.  That means a lot of mainstreaming with Aides.  There is no reason that we cannot have Algebra in Special Ed.  No reason at all. It simply must be done right.  

Aspies and Autistics have done Calculus, for goodness sake.  It can be done, if done with compassion and care.  

Now, having read this post, please go to the poll.  Tell me what you think.  Feel free to post.  These are my best proposals.  If I seem like I am desperate and at my wit's end, I apologize.  I do feel that way, somewhat.

All the best.
PS.

In the interests of disclosure, I voted in my own poll.  I have done so in the past.  I will take a few days off from posting on the Forum, although I will visit occasionally.  I thank you all for being thinkers.  I will be back in a few days or so.

Meanwhile, feel free to comment.  Oh, and by the way, I have threads at the bottom of my Signature for a reason---for you to click on them if you so desire.

All the best.
I noticed the same kind of low-level mathematics in the Emotional Adjustment program in Charles County MD in 1983.  My brother and I had to leave it to get algebra.  

One of my Quantam Leap stories..... the hologram says, "you should give them everything you got and let them deal with an outlier grade equivalent of 17.9 in math."
Voting age to 14 - I don't agree - 14 year olds will follow their parents - they need more time to live and learn about the world and their voting options.

I will go with respecting teachers - but of course they have to be accountable and open to scrutiny.

I especially like your all star proposal.  It would be great if this was a reality.

4 and 7 - 14 - agreed.

15 --a good goal.
Yes, 14 is too young. I could've made an informed decision at that age, but most of my peers could not have. 16 is more realistic; by then most teens have experience with things like driving, credit cards, and making hard choices on their own. Lowering the voting age below the age of adulthood is very intriguing, though... It probably has a great deal of possible pitfalls as well as benefits. Recommendation: Have 16 year olds pass a basic citizenship test--about the 5th grade level--before they can vote.

I think we ought to teach teenagers (not kids) about all religions, so they're informed enough to make a choice. That's the only way to be fair; otherwise you're recommending atheism, by exclusion. Put in a unit about world religions sometime in the junior year of high school or thereabouts.
"I think we ought to teach teenagers (not kids) about all religions, so they're informed enough to make a choice. That's the only way to be fair; otherwise you're recommending atheism, by exclusion. Put in a unit about world religions sometime in the junior year of high school or thereabouts."

ATM: Yes, Callista,  I agree with you on that point.  I will let the conversation continue, and (finally!) rest from posting for a few days.  Since you have an interest in religious issues, here is my March 26 repeat special:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...#pid190782

All the best.

Callista Wrote:
Yes, 14 is too young. I could've made an informed decision at that age, but most of my peers could not have. 16 is more realistic; by then most teens have experience with things like driving, credit cards, and making hard choices on their own. Lowering the voting age below the age of adulthood is very intriguing, though... It probably has a great deal of possible pitfalls as well as benefits. Recommendation: Have 16 year olds pass a basic citizenship test--about the 5th grade level--before they can vote.


Just pondering this (while I should probably be working *grins), and I can see some positives and negatives to the 14-year-old voting age.

As far as positives go, I think that encouraging people to think about politics from an early age will influence society for the better - by the time people are working, they've often become very politically apathetic, and it would be best to have people start forming their opinions early. This anti-apathy effect would hopefully carry through to their adult life.

It's true that many 14 year olds would not be ready to make an informed decision - but then, many people live their entire lives like that. Best to give the benefit of the doubt.

The negative is that the education system would inevitably become somethin of a battleground for political control - the party responsible for the curriculum would have quite a hefty influence over the potential decisions of students. Also, teachers would have far more political influence by proxy - and if my old high school teachers are anything to go by, this isn't always going to be a good idea.

Okay, that last bit was somewhat tongue in cheek - but seriously, concentrating greater voting power into a small group of people isn't a good idea.

All in all, I'd probably have to vote no to lowering the voting age below school age for these two reasons.

Lucie1 Wrote:
Voting age to 14 - I don't agree - 14 year olds will follow their parents - they need more time to live and learn about the world and their voting options.


I'm 14, and most of my political views are completely different to those of my family.

I am the only person in my family to support gay marraige, I'm much more liberal than they are, I don't like the ID cards thing whereas they're OK with it, I think that people should be allowed to take risks rather than be permanently protected from them (my parents don't always agree with that) and I, unlike my parents, see the obesity 'crisis' as bullying and prejudice.

In fact I ahve got into huge arguments with my Dad over politics.

mono, would you be willing to write a document on Education for the autfinity project?

I know nothing of this area, and I am yet to get any volunteers, so..?

Planet*Louise Wrote:

Lucie1 Wrote:
Voting age to 14 - I don't agree - 14 year olds will follow their parents - they need more time to live and learn about the world and their voting options.


I'm 14, and most of my political views are completely different to those of my family.

I am the only person in my family to support gay marraige, I'm much more liberal than they are, I don't like the ID cards thing whereas they're OK with it, I think that people should be allowed to take risks rather than be permanently protected from them (my parents don't always agree with that) and I, unlike my parents, see the obesity 'crisis' as bullying and prejudice.

In fact I ahve got into huge arguments with my Dad over politics.

I see at least 90% of the obesity "crisis" as drummed-up hysteria. Yes, there is a real problem but not to the extent that the doomsaying scientists and doctors frequently preach.

Planet*Louise Wrote:

Lucie1 Wrote:
Voting age to 14 - I don't agree - 14 year olds will follow their parents - they need more time to live and learn about the world and their voting options.


I'm 14, and most of my political views are completely different to those of my family.

I am the only person in my family to support gay marraige, I'm much more liberal than they are, I don't like the ID cards thing whereas they're OK with it, I think that people should be allowed to take risks rather than be permanently protected from them (my parents don't always agree with that) and I, unlike my parents, see the obesity 'crisis' as bullying and prejudice.

In fact I ahve got into huge arguments with my Dad over politics.


Yes - but I feel you are exceptional. My daughter was like you - she had stongly held and well reasoned political ideals and beliefs from a young age. She is very politically astute.
I don't say my ideas are right - I appreciate your response, it opens my eyes to other peoples ideas and thoughts.

Planet*Louise Wrote:

Lucie1 Wrote:
Voting age to 14 - I don't agree - 14 year olds will follow their parents - they need more time to live and learn about the world and their voting options.


I'm 14, and most of my political views are completely different to those of my family.

I am the only person in my family to support gay marraige, I'm much more liberal than they are, I don't like the ID cards thing whereas they're OK with it, I think that people should be allowed to take risks rather than be permanently protected from them (my parents don't always agree with that) and I, unlike my parents, see the obesity 'crisis' as bullying and prejudice.

In fact I ahve got into huge arguments with my Dad over politics.


I was the same.  I can't remember a time when I wasn't interested in politics and I never agreed, and still don't, with my father.  My mother has always said "it's a secret ballot", but I suspect that's because she votes differently from my father! Big Grin

Regarding item 4.
Alfie Kohn suggested that the only test graduating students should be expected to pass is a test that a cross-section of successful adults have all passed. Like him, I would love to see some of these political blow-hards who keep talking about standards-based testing take a few of these ridiculous tests.  You might enjoy reading some of his essays. I bought a book of them last summer titled What Does It Mean To Be Well Educated. Loved it.
I especially liked your all star proposal. If this strategy was put in place it could save so many problems.

pikajedi4 Wrote:
mono, would you be willing to write a document on Education for the autfinity project?

I know nothing of this area, and I am yet to get any volunteers, so..?


ATM: PM me and explain more about what you are proposing.  You are welcome to "lift" this, if Gareth and Amy are OK with that.

All the best.

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