I can see problems ahead for families who do go ahead with children with disabilities. Suppose the government says "Well, you chose it - you can pay for all the treatment, all the medical care, all the respite care, all the special education etc".
Is there a problem with this? Treatment costs money which could be used for other purposes. If a quadriplegic could be given full use of his limbs why should the government give him disability payments?
It is in danger of creating even more of an "underclass" than we have now. At the top, there would presumably be the rich people who can engineer the perfect designer baby - intelligent, beautiful/handsome, fast, strong. And every one of them effectively a 'clone'. Gee, is this the society they really think they want? And if so, how does it differ from eugenics?
Presumably costs for germline genetic engineering will fall and citizens will demand the resources so their children can he nenhanced as well. Presumablt there are trade-offs between different various cognitive finctions and personality traits. Given that parents want different things for their children some variablity is likely to occur.
I think we may be understanding things differently. Who was going to give a quadriplegic full use of their limbs?
In my hypothetical situation the government would fund it either as a measure of universal healthcare or as a service to someone with a disability.
its cruel. its just so evil and i am so angry. that embryo has the right to live, they dont even give it a chance! its cruel, human mothers have the right to their embryos! honestly, we SHOULD have the right to live. it is so cruel. so sick, mad and evil!
wHY CANT NEURO TYPICALS JUST LET US LIVE OUT LIVES? I mean we can cope in the social world but still they dont treat us like humans, why are they supervising us when there are severely autidtic people out there who cant do anything?
do people ever take us seriously? i fell over and hurt a leg and couldnt get up and the teacher told me too and i said that id hurt a leg and couuldnt get up but the teacher continued saying (without showing any signs of emotion) "get up get up", why does that teacher think i dont feel the pain? and why does that teacher talk without emotion to me, but talks and smiles with people who arent autistic? Once a teacher sa
do people ever take us seriously? i fell over and hurt a leg and couldnt get up and the teacher told me too and i said that id hurt a leg and couuldnt get up but the teacher continued saying (without showing any signs of emotion) "get up get up", why does that teacher think i dont feel the pain? and why does that teacher talk without emotion to me, but talks and smiles with people who arent autistic? Once a teacher said i wouldnt be married and i need to be back in a special school, called me "stupid and incapable of loiving life" and said that i would need supervison for the rest of my life but like that will ever happen, my idea is writing a perefectly good series of books, get them pyblished and be a famous author with praise from critics ive never even heard of, get a role in some serial drama about a guy who gets shot dead on the grass and dies in his wifes arms at the end of the 1st part of that 3 part drama, then do more writing and acting, get richer, buy things I like, get a big house and setlle down with a few cats to keep me company. why shouldnt i?
allrights, vote AGAINST it, its sick and cruel, and if that fails, RESTRAIN THE SCIENTISTS! MOTHERS EVERYWHERE dont give them YOUR EMBRYOS!
damnit, wrong button.
in any case, I personally sleep with a pair of swords by my bed (a Chokutō and a ***, if anyone cares). razor sharp, and will use them.
if it does get to a point of snatching aspies for "treatment", let them try
Sleeping with a pair of swords... that makes me think of something I would do if I could. If they started snatching autistics for "treatment," I would keep a bunch of straight razors with me as I sleep so that if anyone tried to take me away, I could go all Sweeney Todd on them...
do people ever take us seriously? i fell over and hurt a leg and couldnt get up and the teacher told me too and i said that id hurt a leg and couuldnt get up but the teacher continued saying (without showing any signs of emotion) "get up get up", why does that teacher think i dont feel the pain? and why does that teacher talk without emotion to me, but talks and smiles with people who arent autistic? Once a teacher said i wouldnt be married and i need to be back in a special school, called me "stupid and incapable of loiving life" and said that i would need supervison for the rest of my life but like that will ever happen, my idea is writing a perefectly good series of books, get them pyblished and be a famous author with praise from critics ive never even heard of, get a role in some serial drama about a guy who gets shot dead on the grass and dies in his wifes arms at the end of the 1st part of that 3 part drama, then do more writing and acting, get richer, buy things I like, get a big house and setlle down with a few cats to keep me company. why shouldnt i?
I can relate to the incident with the falling. I was sent to this bad camp and one summer, I suffered from an ankle injury plus two warts on the bottom of my foot. It was excruciating pain for me to walk. The counselors weren't taking me seriously when I said I was in pain and they were nice to everyone but me 
I wish I could beat them all up so that they'd feel as horrible as they made me feel.... *Runs to a corner to cry*
On the one hand it's saying there's a perfect race, and accepting this bill will be Nazi-like, and you might as well just commit genocide whilst you're at it.
On the other hand, people suffer from it. When you put a pet down, you're putting it out it's misery. I guess you could say that we suffer too.
On the one hand it's saying there's a perfect race, and accepting this bill will be Nazi-like, and you might as well just commit genocide whilst you're at it.
On the other hand, people suffer from it. When you put a pet down, you're putting it out it's misery. I guess you could say that we suffer too.
...lets do a quick poll. Everyone who wishes they had been euthanized at birth put your hand up. Oh look no hands, what a surprise. So much for the other hand.
Asperger's IS a disability. There are benefits, as with everything there are benefits, but Asperger's IS a disability. Who are we to say that more people will have to suffer.
On the one hand it's saying there's a perfect race, and accepting this bill will be Nazi-like, and you might as well just commit genocide whilst you're at it.
On the other hand, people suffer from it. When you put a pet down, you're putting it out it's misery. I guess you could say that we suffer too.
...lets do a quick poll. Everyone who wishes they had been euthanized at birth put your hand up. Oh look no hands, what a surprise. So much for the other hand.
Err. Me?
So says the guy who has derogatory personal comments on his website about somebody who tried to help him. I guess the old saying "no good deed goes unpunished" contains a fair amount of truth.
The new law being voted on soon in the UK, the Human Tissue and Embryology Bill, will mean that parents having IVF will not be allowed to keep embryos showing signs of disability. As I understand it, if there's reason to suspect the child will be autistic (or any other disability for that matter) the embryo gets to die.
What does that say about all of us here and what value they think we have to society?
well just have to keep fighting for our rights, we arent valued in socierty, wlelmjust have to capaign for our rights, i mean, itrs about time people realised that WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS and offically every human being has the right to live.
Who the hell decided this anyway?
that little sentec at the bottom of the comment is truly good, but i think with your picture and stuff its a little dramtic.