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Ian Wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uja3W-ibifc

Then watch this.


the video wouldn't load for me! Sad

what happened in it?

Ian Wrote:
Chav's trying and failing to look badass Tongue


the video loaded and....

WHAT THE (BEEP!) IS THIS (BEEP!)ING PILE OF (BEEP!) ?!?!?!?!

have you ever heard such a annoying accent and urgh..

someone pass me a plasma gun........ oh which reminds me

LESTAT!!!! Tongue

Creasy  Wrote:
So what do you guys think are the underlying social issues that cause the Chavs to be the way they are?


lack of intelligence 'nuff said

and Ian that guy really annoyed me!

Ian Wrote:

Creasy  Wrote:
So what do you guys think are the underlying social issues that cause the Chavs to be the way they are?


Poverty and no prospects.

It can be got rid of if we only invest time and money in the poor buggers.


I'd suggest letting the Idiots rot in their own poverty!

sorry just the sadistic side coming out in me!

make burbury (< is that right spelling?) Illegal? Tongue

Ian Wrote:
Actually Burberry no longer makes caps ;p

Due to Chavs liking them so much, fact.


thank god!

ethereal Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:

Natalie Wrote:
How are chavs different from wiggers?


chavs tend to be about 50% more racist, and about 150% more aggressive.

Yes, they are full of hatred and aggression for just about anyone.  Not all chavs are vicious thugs, but of the ones that are, this is the sort of thing they love to do:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanca...316601.stm


disgusting

thats it! *loads plasma gun*

tally ho! and all that!!!

pikajedi4 Wrote:
*points and laughs, safe in the knowledge that my boots, coat and gauntlet will keep the cowardly chav at bay*


thats something I'd expect lestat to say....

anyways funny picture! Big Grin

and the older chav you'd have thought they'd now better by then!

god do I hate chavs >.<

Wondering1 Wrote:
I lived in the UK for a number of years while I was studying in London and at Oxford. Here is my overview:

1.You have a system whereby the rich become richer and the poor poorer. This is a consequence of decades of Conservative and then New Labour government. If you actually look at the British tax system, for example, it's laughable: there are very few bands, and I understand that the bottom band of income tax (10p to the pound) has been abolished. The poorest, again, shall be most adversely affected. The super rich are treated so, so leniently. The middle and lower income families foot the bill. It's actually extremely illogical, embarrassing and barbaric. It is something that many educated Britons are ashamed of, in my experience. The problem will only get worse if things continue.
2.People are not inherently evil, and if they become so that is an indication of an enormous problem. Society, in and of itself, must be just. British society, as much as American society, is not. Did you know that it is far easier to set up your own business in France or Germany than it is in the UK? Considering that these countries are far less capitalist, I find that to be rather ridiculous. I will go further. The UK isn't even capitalist: it's oligarchical and elitist. The corporations and City have the ear of the major political parties. A situation has developed whereby even the aspiring poor, the potential entrepreneurs or university students, are excluded because they are too -poor-. Sounds somewhat illogical, eh? So much wasted potential for the sake of some fool at Lloyd's making 10,000,000 pa rather than 7,000,000. Education is more expensive, opportunities harder to come by. Things have improved under Labour, but not by much and not to a great extent. They're trying to privatise healthcare as well, and by stealth. You guys are in a pile of *** unless you prevent the Tories from coming to power. At least the Labour Party can be reformed. Your politicians in the UK look to the US for all of the solutions. Why? I mean no offence, but it's a dysfunctional country with entrenched poverty en mass. Why not look to Germany? It's of comparable size and better run.
3.The amorality of the chav is a consequence of his nihilism, itself a product of complete disenfranchisement. He does not care, as I said earlier, because he doesn't need to. He is probably frustrated by the lack of vocational or educational opportunities. As he is dehumanised, so he dehumanises the other. He sees no humanity where there is none in himself; there can be no meaningful association.
Any thoughts?

nice comment

Ian Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:

Ian Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
I fear that if we tried to change the British system, we'd only end up with something worse.


in order to change the system, we would need to start over; change the very thought patterns of certain sections of society (bets that would include us?) and a complete scrapping of our legal system and getting a do-over.

not..really that practical.its not like we can say, "everyone out, we need to change the infrastructure!"


Hence my point, it would lead to chaos without end.


hm.anarchy in the UK, if you will.


Yeah me and you can act as tough as ya want Richard, but when the monkey boys are chucking molotovs at ya windows.. Tongue


not where I am. single entrance to the lane, in the middle of freaking nowhere, no strategic advantage, no political point, not enough people to reach critial mass for a riot.

'sides we have a castle. we're ok Tongue

/is well aware that Anarchy is rule without central government

Ian Wrote:
No government=no real law..you know where i'm going with this Tongue


odds that the big corps would have enough money to hire private armies and take over?

Pakrat Wrote:
Depends where you go I suppose. I think the main troubles we have are connected to the towering amounts of personal debt. It wouldn't take much for many people to lose their homes and the workchoices legislation made jobs so much more precarious for hundreds of thousands of people.

We have also been inundated with cheap US shitecoms on the TV and that hasn't helped our culture one bit.

I download alot of aussie tv, it sucks also........aussie idol is really good tho

In this Yankee's opinion the Chavs are the evil spawn of "there is no such thing as society" Thatcherist neo-liberal corporatist social atomism.

Wondering1 Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
I suppose my Gothic phase was produced by a world that just didn't care and a repressive economic system, was it, Wondering?

My God you're full of it for an Aspie.


No, simply induced by bad taste. Wink

One is a cultural phenomena, the other societal/socio-economic. You being a goth has nothing to do with poverty. Being a chav has everything to do with povery. You've committed a taxonomical blunder.

Oi. I resemble that remark.
you saying I have no style? -_-

Ian...I wasnt serious.
Right wing sex appeal! Tongue  Ain't no such thing.

I agree with Wondering1, and think he has expressed the problem very well.

I can't speak for the whole of the UK, but in Scotland there is a huge underclass.  In 2000/2001 I worked as a District Manager for the Census and was horrified to see the abject poverty in areas of Glasgow.  The poverty wasn't just financial, but of opportunity and hope.  The area which I was responsible for was intersected by the M8 motorway.  On one side were huge mansion houses with security systems at the gates, Daimlers on the drive and so on.  On the other side were burnt out cars, steel-shuttered tenements - with people living in them, near-feral children, junkies and jakies, and a general sense of nihilism and agression.  These people are abandonned by the system and they know it.  They are excluded by society and there seems to be an agression and violence, maybe initiated by defensiveness and fear, which has become normalised.  

I find it depressing and frightening, and am at a loss to know what can be done.  

Thatcher's children have grown up, and no-one wants to know them!
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