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The "leaky gut" theory has led to advice to restrict dairy consumption
Children with autism do not appear to leak damaging proteins from their intestines, a study into the so-called "leaky gut" theory has suggested.
It has been claimed autistic children cannot fully digest proteins found in many foods - and that the resulting peptides escape and affect the brain.

But UK researchers found children with autism did not have more peptides in their urine than a control group.

They have published their findings in the Archives of Diseases in Childhood.

The "leaky gut" theory is based in part on the idea that vaccines such as MMR - given to immunise against measles, mumps and rubella - damage the wall of the intestines.

This causes the digestive problems which lead to the production of peptides, the theory goes.

To try to counter the effects of this, some parents of autistic children then reduce the amount of proteins such as gluten - found in wheat, oats, rye and barley - and casein - found in dairy products, such as milk, cheese and yogurt - in their child's diet.

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But a team from Great Ormond Street Hospital, Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital and the University of Edinburgh have found no evidence of a higher level of peptides in the urine of autistic children.


Evidence suggest that the diet does have beneficial effects for a proportion of those with autism, many of whom do suffer from bowel problems  
Paul Whiteley
Sunderland University

They looked at 65 boys with autism and 158 without.

"It is very distressing to have a diagnosis of autism, a lifelong condition. Many families are driven to try out interventions which currently have no scientific basis," said Dr Hilary Cass of Great Ormond Street.

"Advocates of the leaky gut theory offer children a casein and gluten-free diet which as yet lacks an evidence base. Our research throws serious scientific doubt on the putative scientific basis of that diet."

But Paul Whiteley of the Autism Research Unit at Sunderland University said while the study appeared to have ruled out one reason why a gluten and casein-free diet may work, that did not mean it was not effective for some sufferers.

"It is very good news that more research is being carried out in this area. But evidence suggest that the diet does have beneficial effects for a proportion of those with autism, many of whom do suffer from bowel problems," he said.

"We need further investigation to find out if there are other reasons why it may work."

Benet Middleton of the National Autistic Society said there was an "urgent need" for more research into the efficacy of special diets for thos with autism.

"We are aware of anecdotal support for some dietary interventions, particularly those involving the exclusion of wheat and dairy products," he said.

"There is limited evidence about whether or not these diets are effective and concerns have been raised about their unregulated use."
I've always been sceptical about this "leaky gut" theory as it seemed quite far-fetched. When I was going to support group meetings in my home town, it was almost an article of faith that kids with autism had "leaky gut" but I couldn't see how it would be possible.
Posted it on the norwegian "diet-cult" forum.
... swift reactions.
No, but it is apparently very popular there.
That's the trouble. Even under a microscope and with chemical analysis, there doesn't seem to be a difference between autistic and NT intestines; but the theory remains despite the lack of all evidence. You would think that after some testing, people might conclude that the reason CF/GF helps some autistic kids is that they're simply unable to digest those substances... as many NTs are. Milk and wheat are the two most common food intolerances anyway, maybe tied with or closely followed by red meat... (Intolerance means you can't digest it. Different from an allergy.) Check out celiac disease and lactose intolerance. Both of 'em are asymptomatic if you don't consume wheat and milk, respectively, and both are quite common among the general population. I think the genetics are connected to autism; they both run in my family anyway--except I got lucky; I got autism only. My mom got all three...
Now I'm worried that this will lend another weapon to the 'autistic = Neanderthal genes' hypothesis, in that Neanderthals weren't farmers, and didn't consume bovine milk or wheat...

Like Callista's mother, there are several people in my family with 'all three'.

I can tolerate bovine milk products; they just give me chronic sinusitis, which I reckon I can live with, as I don't fancy osteoporosis.

Gluten, on the other hand, gives me appalling gut problems - which I can't live with, so I'm on a gluten-free, but not casein-free, diet.

One of my boys tried a gluten-free diet for a few weeks; his eczema nearly cleared up, but he disliked the diet so much he went back to what he calls 'real food'. Rolleyes

Now the GP has discovered through blood tests that he isn't able to digest much of what he eats and is testing for Cœliac disease.

Arctoris Wrote:

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
Now I'm worried that this will lend another weapon to the 'autistic = Neanderthal genes' hypothesis, in that Neanderthals weren't farmers, and didn't consume bovine milk or wheat...


There are people who seriously believe that Asperger's is just having Neanderthal DNA? Wow, I never knew.

Also, when Neanderthals were around, Humans had not developed agriculture or husbandry either.


Yup - there's quite a few people that believe it.

I'm quite fond of the idea of ancient autistic tribes, personally - though I'd be the first to admit that the evidence is pretty tenuous...

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
Now I'm worried that this will lend another weapon to the 'autistic = Neanderthal genes' hypothesis, in that Neanderthals weren't farmers, and didn't consume bovine milk or wheat...

Like Callista's mother, there are several people in my family with 'all three'.

I can tolerate bovine milk products; they just give me chronic sinusitis, which I reckon I can live with, as I don't fancy osteoporosis.

Gluten, on the other hand, gives me appalling gut problems - which I can't live with, so I'm on a gluten-free, but not casein-free, diet.

One of my boys tried a gluten-free diet for a few weeks; his eczema nearly cleared up, but he disliked the diet so much he went back to what he calls 'real food'. Rolleyes

Now the GP has discovered through blood tests that he isn't able to digest much of what he eats and is testing for Cœliac disease.


I might need to be tested for something along these lines.  The problems in my gut and with constipation, lately, have gotten epidemic and I barely have the energy to do anything anymore.  I have frequent abdominal pain and pressure, and it feels like something is "clogged" or blocked up down there.  I've noticed my eczema has also gotten a lot worse recently.

There are several sires which propose a link between Neanderthal genes and Autism, e.g.
http://www.rdos.net/wiki/index.php/Neanderthal_theory

I suppose the speculation is based on:


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40,000-Year-Old Skull Shows Both Modern Human And Neanderthal Traits.

Source: Space Daily
Publication Date: 19-JAN-07
Byline: Staff Writers

BRISTOL, Wales, Jan. 18 (SPX) -- Humans continued to evolve significantly long after they were established in Europe, and interbred with Neandertals as they settled across the continent, according to new research published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) USA.

Professor Joao Zilhao of the University of Bristol, Professor Erik Trinkaus of Washington University and colleagues in Europe compared the features of an early modern human cranium found in the Petera cu Oase (the Cave with Bones) in southwestern Romania with other human samples from the period (the Late Pleistocene). Differences between the skulls suggest complex population dynamics as modern humans dispersed into Europe.

The different fragments of the reconstructed cranium - named Oase 2 - were found in a Late Pleistocene bone bed principally containing the remains of cave bears. They were recovered during a systematic excavation project directed by Professor Trinkaus and Professor Zilhao between 2003 and 2005.

Radiocarbon dating of the specimen produced only a minimum age (more than 35,000 years), but similarity in morphological traits with the Oase 1 human mandible - found in 2002 on the surface of the cave, adjacent to the excavation area, and dated to about 40,500 years ago - lead the team to conclude that the two fossils were the same age. These are the earliest modern human remains so far found in Europe and represent our best evidence of what the modern humans who first dispersed into Europe looked like.

By comparing it with other skulls, Professor Zilhao and colleagues found that Oase 2 had the same proportions as modern human crania and shared a number of modern human and/or non-Neandertal features.

However, there were some important differences: apparently independent features that are, at best, unusual for a modern human. These included frontal flattening, a fairly large juxtamastoid eminence and exceptionally large upper molars with unusual size progression which are found principally among the Neandertals.

Professor Zilhao said: "Such differences raise important questions about the evolutionary history of modern humans. They could be the result of evolutionary reversal or reflect incomplete palaeontological sampling of Middle Paleolithic human diversity.

"They could also reflect admixture with Neandertal populations as modern humans spread through western Eurasia. This mixture would have resulted in both archaic traits retained from the Neandertals and unique combinations of traits resulting from the blending of previously divergent gene pools.

"The ultimate resolution of these issues must await considerations of larger samples of European early modern humans and chronologically intervening specimens. But this fossil is a major addition to the growing body of fossil, genetic and archaeological evidence indicating significant levels of biological and cultural interaction between modern humans and the anatomically archaic populations (including the Neandertals) they met along the way as they spread from Africa into Eurasia."

It is apparent that the Oase 2 cranium indicates there was significant modern human morphological evolution since the early Upper Paleolithic, the researchers conclude. Oase 2 is 'modern' in its abundance of derived modern human features, but it remains 'nonmodern' in its complex constellation of archaic and modern features.

Paper: Pestera cu Oase 2 and the cranial morphology of early modern Europeans by Helene Rougier, Stefan Milota, Ricardo Rodrigo, Mircea Gherase Laurentiu Sarcina, Oana Moldovan, Joao Zilhao, Silviu Constantin, Robert G. Franciscus, Christoph P. E. Zollikofer, Marcia Ponce-de-Leon and Erik Trinkaus http://www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.0610538104


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Neanderthal/human relationship questioned.

Source: UPI NewsTrack
Publication Date: 11-SEP-05
WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 (UPI) -- The debate over the relationship between Neanderthals and modern humans is taking on new virulence amid a collection of new evidence.

For years, paleontologists have argued about whether anatomically modern humans either wiped out the Neanderthals or whether Neanderthals and the invaders simply interbred to create today's Homo sapiens, the Washington Post reported.

While DNA analysis to date suggests Neanderthals and modern humans are probably unrelated, researchers say new analysis of materials from old excavations in France shows Neanderthals and modern humans coexisted in western Europe during the Neanderthals' waning days, and thus had "potential demographic and cultural interactions."

Co-author Paul Mellars -- a University of Cambridge archaeologist and leading proponent of the view that modern humans pushed aside and then replaced Neanderthals -- told the newspaper he knew "there would be screaming" after publication of the research in the journal Nature this month.

"It's hogwash," said Erik Trinkaus, an anthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis who is an advocate both of Neanderthal-modern human interbreeding and Neanderthals' ability to adapt and "modernize."

Trinkaus said Mellars "is grasping at straws."

I’ve spent a large proportion of my life feeling slightly unwell for no apparent reason. Only recently, when my allergies got a lot worse did I consider experimenting with my diet to find a possible solution.

Although I’ve never been tested for food intolerances--I’ve found that if I cut out gluten and wheat I feel a lot better; and my allergy attacks become less frequent. I have also reduced the amount of dairy I eat--which also appears to help.

Interesting Tigger…
I get quite bad sinusitis. I might consider stopping dairy altogether if it  helps.

Intolerances to gluten/wheat and milk are relatively common--not just amongst aspies. We evolved to eat a hunter-gatherer diet (roots, fruit, game-meat etc); we started farming for a few thousand years.
It’s therefore understandable to many people are still ill adapted to this  type diet. I believe the modern ‘farmer-based’ diet is responsible for many of the health problems we experience today (in fact I’ve done research on it). High sugar, the saturated fats found in dairy and high levels of refined carbohydrates are bad for everyone. It’s just that aspies may be more sensitive than most.

Perhaps we should all be eating a hunter-gatherer type diet. But I don’t think this gives any weight to the Neanderthal-aspie hypothesis.
I actually like this hypothesis when I first heard it. But there’s simply no proper evidence for it--no conclusive evidence for modern-human, Neanderthal interbreeding.
Sorry a few spelling mistakes^
Hope it still makes sense. Smile

quickduck Wrote:
Perhaps we should all be eating a hunter-gatherer type diet. But I don’t think this gives any weight to the Neanderthal-aspie hypothesis.
I actually like this hypothesis when I first heard it. But there’s simply no proper evidence for it--no conclusive evidence for modern-human, Neanderthal interbreeding.


There was no singular "hunter-gatherer diet," the local environment determined the local diet. IMO there is probably 2 major dietary dichotomies between warm vs. cool climates and moist vs. dry climates. The cooler or drier the climate the more hunter-gatherers had to rely on meat as a source of calories. You can see this in the differences between African-American and European-American populations when it comes to heart disease, since African-Americans are more at risk for heart disease then European-Americans. This is because the metabolism of European populations handles saturated fat better then the metabolism of West African populations because of thousands of years of adapting to different diets. As the evolution of lactose tolerance shows, metabolic differences between populations do not really take that long to evolve. I'm sure agriculture had a significant selection pressure on metabolism as well.

I consider the Neandertal-Aspie hypothesis to be nonsense. IMO a balance of negative and positive traits (and by "positive" and "negitive" I mean in Darwinian terms of passing one's genes on the the next generation, not that the traits are good or bad for the individual) is the best explanation for Autism. Negative traits, traits that make it less likely to have offspring, will cause a allele (a version of a gene) to be weeded out of a population by natural selection. Positive traits, alleles that make it more likely to have offspring, will spread. and allele with both positive and negitive traits will spread through the population but will be kept at a low % of the population.

When studies like these gets recognition it seems like people want to modify the theory in question so that it still is room for it - often it gets modified towards the infalsifiable.

- Genetic predisposition for autism if gluten and casein intolerance is present - aswell as the idea that autism could have different causes from person to person.

I think this study proves that gluten and casein intolerance can't have anything to do with any majority of the autism cases.

Batman55 Wrote:

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
Now I'm worried that this will lend another weapon to the 'autistic = Neanderthal genes' hypothesis, in that Neanderthals weren't farmers, and didn't consume bovine milk or wheat...

Like Callista's mother, there are several people in my family with 'all three'.

I can tolerate bovine milk products; they just give me chronic sinusitis, which I reckon I can live with, as I don't fancy osteoporosis.

Gluten, on the other hand, gives me appalling gut problems - which I can't live with, so I'm on a gluten-free, but not casein-free, diet.

One of my boys tried a gluten-free diet for a few weeks; his eczema nearly cleared up, but he disliked the diet so much he went back to what he calls 'real food'. Rolleyes

Now the GP has discovered through blood tests that he isn't able to digest much of what he eats and is testing for Cœliac disease.


I might need to be tested for something along these lines.  The problems in my gut and with constipation, lately, have gotten epidemic and I barely have the energy to do anything anymore.  I have frequent abdominal pain and pressure, and it feels like something is "clogged" or blocked up down there.  I've noticed my eczema has also gotten a lot worse recently.

Do you think trying some dried apricots and prunes will clear out the blockage?

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