Aspies For Freedom

Ding, we have a winner.

I'm going to take a risk of starting a flame war, but science will never be able to explain faith.

My personal belief is that in order to get rid of all these diseases and disabilities God would have to judge everyone, I think there a resault of the common sin of man.

God does not judge us yet, becuause he loves us and holds hope that we (man) will change.

When you try and scientifically prove faith, it cancels it out.

If you want to start a seperate thread to debate this topic your more then welcome.

No.

When I worked in prison one girl misheard another in talking about the holes in Jesus' hands - she thought she said 'bowls'. So we made up our own religion called the Holy Bowls where communion was a Penguin biscuit and White Lightning cider. We also decided that Britney Spears and David Beckham must be Moses because they had never been seen in the same room together.

Gotta love prison.

We also found a clip-art of what looked like Coco Pops on Word and sent it to someone else as an email attachment with 'For God so loved the world He said... let there be Coco Pops'

Terry Pratchett and Douglas Adams are practically a viable religion in and of themselves.  

Well...I don't know.  The whole "I can't see it or measure it, so it's not there" argument just doesn't hold much weight for me.  It's a bit like quantum physics in that respect.  Think about how much of what we call science is actually just well-supported hypotheses...and think about how much of today's hard science was yesterday's mythology.  There's no telling what our accepted notion of science will be tomorrow.

I've seen too much to say that belief doesn't have any power, regardless of what you believe or don't believe in...if you believe that God is answering your prayers, or that casting a spell will achieve a certain effect, or that everything is entirely dependent on chance and nature, those beliefs could potentially manifest in one way or another.  Belief doesn't necessarily exert a great deal of force - nothing that can be reliably measured at present, if ever - and it's definitely not something we have complete control over.  But I don't think that's any reason to say it's impossible.  

I'm sure a lot of people would argue with me, but I think belief itself is the catalyst (as opposed to what you actually believe in).  I don't think belief and science oppose each other as much as people think...they don't mesh in every respect and probably weren't meant to.  The human mind is equipped to consider both the concrete and the abstract...even from the perspective of evolution, that state wouldn't exist without some definite purpose...but that's just my very abridged way of thinking.  

Holding up an instance like the one mentioned in the original post and saying "See?  Belief doesn't count for anything!"  is a very jaded, biased perspective.  Especially since faith is different for everyone...there's no gold standard to hold beliefs up to, even if they fall within the same basic lines of a religion.

Yet another sad example of how misunderstood autism is, though.  I can empathize with his son...my parents thought having a "special child" was something to be ashamed of, too.   That was probably what turned me away from Christian faith in the beginning...the mixed messages about love and acceptance (but only for certain people?) were blatant and overwhelming.  In essence that's not at all how Christianity was intended to be, but as a 12-year old I couldn't look beyond my parents' example.