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Actually prayer healing works...but only on sickness.... <<

BardWolf Wrote:
Actually prayer healing works...but only on sickness.... <<


Zing!

Does autism let us see God any better than the NTs can?  Think about that, maybe that has a purpose.  Maybe there is a little bit of divine purpose in the autistic perception.

Marcia Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Does autism let us see God any better than the NTs can?  Think about that, maybe that has a purpose.  Maybe there is a little bit of divine purpose in the autistic perception.


No.


On behalf of non-monotheistic autistic people everywhere, I agree.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

Marcia Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Does autism let us see God any better than the NTs can?  Think about that, maybe that has a purpose.  Maybe there is a little bit of divine purpose in the autistic perception.


No.


On behalf of non-monotheistic autistic people everywhere, I agree.


on behalf of the Atheists, the pagans, and the Heathens, at this point i will say "no" and raise you a sarcastic glare.

Marcia Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Does autism let us see God any better than the NTs can?  Think about that, maybe that has a purpose.  Maybe there is a little bit of divine purpose in the autistic perception.


No.


LMAO... concise and straight to the point. Love it Tongue

ocampo Wrote:
And what about those of us that believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I raise a tin of alphabet spaghetti at you for your blasphemy Zakkie.


All Hail His Noodly Appendage!

ocampo Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:

ocampo Wrote:
And what about those of us that believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I raise a tin of alphabet spaghetti at you for your blasphemy Zakkie.


All Hail His Noodly Appendage!


When I worked in prison one girl misheard another in talking about the holes in Jesus' hands - she thought she said 'bowls'. So we made up our own religion called the Holy Bowls where communion was a Penguin biscuit and White Lightning cider. We also decided that Britney Spears and David Beckham must be Moses because they had never been seen in the same room together.

Gotta love prison.


yes.
"love".
quite.

ocampo Wrote:

ocampo Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:

ocampo Wrote:
And what about those of us that believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I raise a tin of alphabet spaghetti at you for your blasphemy Zakkie.


All Hail His Noodly Appendage!


When I worked in prison one girl misheard another in talking about the holes in Jesus' hands - she thought she said 'bowls'. So we made up our own religion called the Holy Bowls where communion was a Penguin biscuit and White Lightning cider. We also decided that Britney Spears and David Beckham must be Moses because they had never been seen in the same room together.

Gotta love prison.


We also found a clip-art of what looked like Coco Pops on Word and sent it to someone else as an email attachment with 'For God so loved the world He said... let there be Coco Pops'


Tell me, have you ever read any of the Discworld novels, or The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy?

ocampo Wrote:
LOVE Douglas Adams.

Does it show? Tongue


oh no.
not at all.

ocampo Wrote:
I've never read Terry Prachett although its been very much recommended to me.


he just released a book of random quotes from the books Tongue


soul music Wrote:

The question seldom addressed is where Medusa had snakes. Underarm hair is an even more embarrassing problem when it keeps biting the top off the deodorant bottle

ocampo Wrote:
And what about those of us that believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I raise a tin of alphabet spaghetti at you for your blasphemy Zakkie.


I must express my humblest apologies - I've just finished reading "Autism and the Flying Spaghetti Monster Connection", and my eyes have been opened...

I now know that autistic people have a special bond with all pasta-based deities, and we should all wear spaghetti suits in honour of this.

The book was quite helpful with practical advice, as well - for instance, it made sure to warn all crystal children not to get too close to high-pitched opera singers...

Indeed.

in the words of the Prophet Pratchett;

Terry Pratchett, Book One of his Holy Verse (The Colour Of Magic) Wrote:
If complete and utter chaos was lightning, He would be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting, "All Gods are Bastards"


let us crease over laughing.

but seriously now

Elventaoist Wrote:

pikajedi4 Wrote:
Tell me, have you ever read any of the Discworld novels, or The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy?


Terry Pratchett and Douglas Adams are practically a viable religion in and of themselves.  Tongue

Well...I don't know.  The whole "I can't see it or measure it, so it's not there" argument just doesn't hold much weight for me.  It's a bit like quantum physics in that respect.  Think about how much of what we call science is actually just well-supported hypotheses...and think about how much of today's hard science was yesterday's mythology.  There's no telling what our accepted notion of science will be tomorrow.

agreed.
that said, our current scientific process is based on that the Greeks used, and afore that we used the Theocracy method (we'll let you do it...if you behave.)

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I've seen too much to say that belief doesn't have any power, regardless of what you believe or don't believe in...if you believe that God is answering your prayers, or that casting a spell will achieve a certain effect, or that everything is entirely dependent on chance and nature, those beliefs could potentially manifest in one way or another.  Belief doesn't necessarily exert a great deal of force - nothing that can be reliably measured at present, if ever - and it's definitely not something we have complete control over.  But I don't think that's any reason to say it's impossible.  


Yoda Wrote:
For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you.

sorry, that was low.
I do actually agree with this sentiment though.

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I'm sure a lot of people would argue with me, but I think belief itself is the catalyst (as opposed to what you actually believe in).  I don't think belief and science oppose each other as much as people think...they don't mesh in every respect and probably weren't meant to.  The human mind is equipped to consider both the concrete and the abstract...even from the perspective of evolution, that state wouldn't exist without some definite purpose...but that's just my very abridged way of thinking.  Tongue


are you familiar with Phillip Pullmans "His Dark Materials"?
there is a similar concept with "Dust".

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Yet another sad example of how misunderstood autism is, though.  I can empathize with his son...my parents thought having a "special child" was something to be ashamed of, too.   That was probably what turned me away from Christian faith in the beginning...the mixed messages about love and acceptance (but only for certain people?) were blatant and overwhelming.  In essence that's not at all how Christianity was intended to be, but as a 12-year old I couldn't look beyond my parents' example.


all religion suffers from this.
"love thy brother-unless he has a different creed/ancestry/language/race/religion/squint/funny walk/resources we want"

and personally, I have little time for religion, although I find Mythology...fascinating, especially that of Norse and Egyptian origins.

alectrum Wrote:
If our beliefs create our own reality, and then if that reality affects other beliefs... then does this not zing?  But then again when our reality comes up against sceptism, then that zings also...yeah?  Smile


but does each of us not have our own "image" of reality?
and is that not effected by others images?

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