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Its great to hear your children are doing well Tigger. My 4 year old son has taken an interest in the piano also. We have a small one for his size however , we are looking into getting a big one for him - we just  need to find somewhere to put it. Smile
What an interesting, lovely and talented bunch!

My six year old son is smart and articulate.  He loves singing and dancing, putting on shows when he puts on different accents for the different characters he plays, he has a huge interest in everything and how it all connects up.  His memory is amazing and he is loved and cared for by all his schoolmates.  He enjoys his drama class and had his first swimming lesson yesterday.  He has a good ear for music and languages and will succeed at whatever he puts his mind to!  My beautiful, gorgeous wee aspie boy!  Wouldn't change him for anything! Smile

moonbeam Wrote:
I just discovered this site, and althought my son has no official diagnosis, I see him on the aspie pages here. He is brilliant, but last night said that nobody his class likes him. He is sweet, kind, and friendly. I asked him why he thinks (he was crying at the time) and he said "They sense my aura and they feel uncomfortable around it" at other times, he has said "they think I'm weird, or they basically act like I'm invisible." It is breaking my heart. He does have a few close friends, and I told him to focus on those people. He loves going to school despite this, but after going on a few field trips, I see that it's not getting better for him as he gets older. The kids seem to treat him worse, and I am taking great care to choose a middle school. I know I sidetracked the topic a bit, but I can brag about his many gifts another time soon. I'm just worried about him now and need support.


Hi Moonbeam and welcome to AFF! Smile

Sorry to hear that your son is unhappy about how the other children regard him, although at least it sounds more like misunderstandings and lack of connection than outright bullying.  I have to say your son does sound like my mine in this respect.  His sense of humour and interests are very different from the majority of his classmates, and even his own group of friends don't always seem to "get" his jokes.

I wondered what age your son is, and whether you are waiting for a diagnosis - I'm guessing you didn't stumble across this site entirely by chance....

(This should probably be on the introductions thread - can it be moved?)

Wow, thank you Tigger - its a great thread!!



My son, Evan, started at ASU as a freshman last fall.  He is majoring in biomechanics. invented a new type of wheelchair as a class project.  One of the perfessors who has started his own company manufacturing rocket ships heard about it and hired Evan immediately (he is still also going to school full time).  He wants evan to be his business partner in producing the wheel chairs at some point.

Lucie1 Wrote:
My son emailed his mentor to say he was leaving his job. He could not cope with the stress of the extra responsiblity. His boss is great - but he forgot about my son's special needs / differences. The mentor intervened - the boss reduced his responsibility /stress levels and gave him a $2 an hour rise to keep him.

I'm proud of my darling.


I am also proud of your little darling!!

I'm sure he'll be just fine Tongue
B"H

I always feel a little self-conscious about posting here, since it is for the parents and not for the "Aspies."  I would like to respect that, since I do not have children and I am therefore in the other camp.  However, I hope that what I am about to post is of interest.  The following is a thread on "The Fifth Commandment and my NT Parents":

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=12107

Please take it as a perspective.  And, parents, I rejoice in your happiness.  Remember, however, that the true pride and joy of a parent is a child who has integrity, who models what is right, and who is consistent in his or her walk regardless of external circumstances or societal pressure.  Being a pianist or an Astrophysicist is an excellent accomplishment.  Being just an righteous is priceless beyond measure.

May this be the blessing that you all have in your children.  I wish you all Mazel Tov.  You are rich beyond measure.

All the best.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
B"H

I always feel a little self-conscious about posting here, since it is for the parents and not for the "Aspies."  
http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=12107


Hi ATM, I think it is grand you pop up on various threads and leave little easter eggs (although you're Jewish, so I'll be thinking of a different analogy).  

You link them so people can pass over (there that's more jewish!) or read them as they wish.  thanks.

Our eldest who is 6 has been having a lot of problems with nightmares etc at the moment but we are really proud of him as he won ‘Star Of The Term’ in his school class.   He was presented with a certificate and prize in the school assembly, he looked very proud of himself and I was proud with him to with a tear in my eye.

Our youngest who is 3 has now learnt to trace over his name a nursery so he is very proud with himself as are we.

I am proud of both our boys.   Smile
B"H

Thank you Mahler5 and Lucie1 for your kind words.  Oddly, 5-1 is my birthday on the Gregorian Calendar.  It lined up with my Hebrew birthday when I turned 30!  (First Sphenic number)  It is interesting, if probably coincidental, that "5" and "1" both step up as I move closer to my birthday with such kind words, including what a "righteous dad" I would be.  Not to say that there is any "hidden meaning" necessarily...

OK, well, my point was simply that I respect the purpose of the forum.  If it is for parents, I am a bit reticent about intruding.  I have been taken to task via PM (in a very kind way) by a parent of a severely disabled child, or child with a severe disability to be person-first, if you prefer.  This parent is extremely kind, by the way. He/she is something of what many of you might call a "curebie".  Now---please---respect what this person's experience is, just as you want your experience respected.  Just as some of the well-intentioned things that parents and experts say may be very hurtful to many of you, so it is that some of the things that you or I might say could seem to be "politicizing" the Spectrum to parents.

Thus, with all of the pains in my life, very few of which I have really shared with this forum, but which have been ever present, I must respect the fact that I have never been the parent of any child, much less a child with severe disabilities.  My own experiences have been with a social and concentrative disability.  And, my friends, it is a disability as well as a gift. It is both.  And, to be fair, I love sunlight, I can drive when I want, vacation when I want (within economic reason), travel to other countries if I want (my reason for not doing so is connected with Asperger---the blasted plane ride---but I *could* overcome it), speak, walk, and do things that severely disabled people cannot do.  Thus, I am in no way "severely disabled."

Now, I know that "Autism" is not the disability, but that there are other things that could come with it ("comorbid", I believe the word is).  You know that, and I know that.  However, many parents do not understand our redefinitions of terms.  Defining "Autism" is a matter of semantics.  How we DEFINE Autism is different than how some of the parents define it.  I know a parent with a teen on the Spectrum.  He was made out to be, you know, "on the Spectrum", to the point that I figured that I would feel like a Neuro-typical compared with him.  As it was, when I met him, unbeknownst to me, I did not even know he was on the Spectrum until it was pointed out to be whose kid he was.  He seemed like...OK, here goes, sorry to put it this way....a "normal kid," as my still residually Neuro-centric mind would understand the term.  He was clearly an "Aspie", probably less so that I am.  Yet, he was "Autistic".  Wow!  So, how was I a "Neuro-typical" all of these years and he Autistic when it seems like we are both pretty similar?

Yet, the experience of some of the readers is very different.  Some are going to see the world differently.  In the case of the one parent with whom I communicated via PM, I encouraged this person to have no association with John B***, the Judge Rottenberg Center, and to be extremely leery of Autism Speaks.  Now, the last organization should not be compared with the first two...but, you get my point.  So much of the conversation focuses on the extreme end of the curve, those with severe disabilities who are classed as Autistic.  What is in a word?  How do we define people with language?  It is all very confusing.  This parent's son cannot speak, and is in extreme pain as he/she described him.  What can I say to that?  What is my "personal liberation" to this parent?  I would be a mocker if I even dared to intrude on this person's broodings.

That is why generally I do not post on this thread, except as a response to others.  This is the parents' perspective.  If they want to take me to task, to ask how I dare to comment when I can do all of the things that I do and their child cannot, then they may do so on my own threads.  They are welcome to do just that.  I would not intrude on theirs.  This is a consideration that I afford to them.

And, frankly, those on the more "Autistic" wing of the Spectrum are free to take me to task as well, while I will refrain from intruding too much on to "Spectrum Haven."  One young lady described how she was mistreated by a teacher in the computer lab.  She is under 18, and cannot freely protest.  Now, this teacher apparently figured that her status as a parent of a child on the Spectrum gave her all of these rights over others.  Yet, the young lady to whom she addressed herself taught herself Calculus!  Such arrogance on the part of anyone to address her like that!  Yet, from my own experience, while I have experienced mistreatment, I do not believe that I have had this type of experience (except at Chapman University, which leads to a whole other discussion about teacher credential programs).  Thus, I generally avoid the "Spectrum Haven" thread as well.  I have respect for others with experiences I have not had.  I do not feel that it is fair of me to intrude.

My experiences have been of social limitations more than other types of limitations. I cannot really be in crowds.  I cannot develop long-term relationships with ease.  Friendships seem to be on a one-on-one basis.  I tend to have obsessions.  I will spend hours in the library reading about them.  They tend to last for years.  And, I really do break license plates down in to primes.  Finally, I probably really do have a 30 IQ point differential between different areas of my own intelligence.  

So, I am on the Spectrum.  And, to be honest, I believe that I may be more "Autistic" in less obvious respects than some people who are recognized as being on the Spectrum.  Now, to be clear, I am using the term "Autistic" in a *certain* way.  My use of the term does not imply a disability, or a desire to have the special services that others desperately need, but which I can live without, and which I would never *DARE* to appropriate from those that truly need them.  I am simply stating that I am more out of the norm in certain key areas than some of them are (albeit without their horrendous experiences, and any right to detract from their dignity).  

I am not in the category of being in severe pain, or being unable to communicate.  Thus, I would never dare to post too much in either the parent's forum, or in the "Spectrum Haven", save for a few posts here and there.  My purpose here is therefore limited to those forums to which it is appropriate.  I recognize the rights of those on the parent and Spectrum haven forums to come on to mine, but I believe that I should respect their space.  It does not have to be even, because I am not in as much need as many of them are.  The sense in which I am on the Spectrum is different than the more severe experiences of many others.  My one disability is workplace discrimination.  That has been SEVERE in my life.  I will recognize that one, for sure.  It needs to be discussed as something that "HFA"/Aspie people might experience in a unique way.

Parents, let me end with this.  The person with whom I have been communicating took me to task for the "LFA created for a Holy Purpose" thread:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=11885

However, I believe that if that thread is rightly understood, it is key to what your experience could be.  You must *BELIEVE* yourself that people are created with a holy purpose.  You must believe it about yourself, as well as about your child.  If you cannot understand the concept of a holy purpose, you will have difficulty understanding your own plight as a parent, and you will have missed your reason for being.

Autistic children are respected by the holy Rabi'im in Israel.  They are respected because an individual life is the Universe to them.  True Rabbis have this wisdom.  False Rabbis, of whom there are too many, focus on building projects, money, social status, money, appearances, money, political power, money, praise, money...did I forget to mention money?  Real Rabbis are precious, and derive their authority as righteous Tzaddikim from Moses himself.  Now, don't let anyone fool you.  Tzaddikim do NOT come in bloodlines (necessarily).  Anyone can be one.  Just, remember to follow your holy Purpose.

All the best.
my son has had his training wheels on his bike for over 2 years.  last night he learned to ride his bike w/o them.  it was a proud moment.  the look on his face was priceless.  he fell off twice, but just kept on trying.  all he said was "never give up."

honestjohn Wrote:
Wow, without training wheels - sweet freedom! congratulations!


thanks! it was so wonderful to see him finally reach his goal.

Oh my goodness your children are SO BEAUTIFUL.  They shine with love and kindness.  What a wonderful family (she tries to type with Siamese on her chest trying to eat the cursor.)

SmileSmileSmile
Oh, well done with the photo.  I've can never work out the size thing!

What lovely children and a very special day! Smile  A definate rites of passage!

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
kattoo13, please congratulate your son for me! It is a wonderful thing, to persevere inspite of setbacks!


I will...thanks.

And HonestJohn, cute kids!

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