Hi Sparkle, I don't think it is usual to have a very detailed rejection letter, it seems more usual to have something standard.
If you apply for jobs in the future, you will find that many won't even give a rejection letter, they just don't contact you at all unless you get the job.
"My basic argument is that if some companies can be considerate, why can't they all be?"
Money probably. :roll:
Students/graduates are also expected to fill in each form individually and tailor the responses to each company - they are not allowed to copy and paste responses from other company's forms.
Who says applicants "are not allowed to copy and paste responses from other company's forms"? I did that all the time! It made a lot of sense, given that most employers were asking fairly similar questions, e.g. "Give an example of when you have worked in a team", "What are your strengths and weaknesses?" etc. Of course questions such as "What do you consider to be the greatest challenges facing [company name]?" or "Why do you want to work for us?" required a more tailored response, so I'd go to the City Business Library or the British Library to read archived copies of the Financial Times and trade journals.
Good point, I think that as long as the answers are your own, then putting the same answers on various forms is entirely reasonable. It is still a true representation of yourself and your thoughts.
I once applied to an employer who said that they were unable to acknowledge all applications, so if I didn't hear from them within four weeks I should assume that my application had been unsuccessful. And I didn't so I did... Then, after the four-week period, they contacted me to say they would like to interview me after all, but they insisted they could only do it on the following Monday and no other date. This was no good for me because I had another interview on that day, an interview which I'd already rescheduled once because of a clash. Then they suggested I get in touch with the universities in London (where I was living at the time) to see if I could use their video-conferencing facilities - and all at less than a week's notice! In the event I never managed to make this interview, so I don't know if I would have liked to have worked for them or not...
The employer was Cefas (the Centre for Environment, Fisheries & Aquaculture Science) in Lowestoft, Suffolk.
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Personally I find these graduate recuitment schemes to be a bit elitist. They require good honours for a start - or if its not that then they want several years experience (even though its a graduate scheme). I didnt get honours. I was lucky to get my ordinary degree and its all down to AS related difficulties.
I never made Uni at all after getting bullied in college and dropping out.
I'd just like to point out that the one time i was rejected for a job was after i had been given an interview applying as a trainee network manager. There were 2 other applicants and we were both offered the chance to stay behind and get feedback on why we failed. In my case they told me it was due to my GCSE results and practical experience. (though i am skeptical about the practical experience of the applicant who got the job - he was from their own 6th form).
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The thing is they can do that at any time - reject someone because they are different and put it down to legitimate reasons.
I went to an employment rights talk last year and I was sure to ask that very question. What you have to do is if you are sufficiently sure that their reasons are discriminatory in that way even if they give different reasons, then you should take it to a tribunal. If they have a history of making similar decisions then it will show and the tribunal will kick their arse.
I'm not sure exactly what you stand to gain by doing that (you might be compensated) but it at least gives you some small measure of justice and puts out the message that discrimination will not be tolerated.
So I would encourage everyone to take whatever action they can if they have the slightest suspicion that they are being discriminated against. It cant do you any harm and it won't be brought up in the future (unless it involves losing a current job). Don't stand for it.
It is so easy for a prospective employer to bring up a phoney excuse.
If they seemed very keen on offering you the job, until you mentioned AS, for instance, I think that it would be worth taking further.
Also if you are able to hide it then its better not to mention AS till after you get the job - that way its alot harder if not impossible for them to get rid of you.
The NAS, in one of their advice booklets, states that it is better to tell employers when applying for a job.
The idea is that employers can then be more understanding and helpful in the job. Does this sound very realistic to you? Maybe some employers might do the right thing, but I think many would not.
I thought there was this rule whereby anyone with a registered disability who meets the minimum requirements for a job is guaranteed an interview. Something to do with the "positive about disabled people" two ticks logo? I never took advantage of this myself as I had not been diagnosed at the time I applied for my current job.
Only if they specifically ask
Its really a bit of a grey area in that is it both right and wrong. I know for a fact that discrimination based on disability (or percieved disability) does happen and that the majority of prospective employers will do this.
If your difficulties definately affect your ability to do the job then you should mention it before hand - but if they only affect nonessential things like being a 'team player' etc. then you are better not to mention it until after startign the job (but do mention it so that it makes it alot harder for them to get rid of you for 'asthetic' reasons)