And then the government has the gall to wonder at the rise in "syndromes and disorders"
My mother IMed this to me... and I think you should all read it...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...geId=57629
This article made me a bit angry... seriously the incompetence rate these people have is astounding in my opinion. They're sitting on their hands while children are being vaccinated with something that could cause autism and immunodeficiencies in children...
and they're conceding... :-\
TTFN
Me
There has never been any connection shown between vaccinations and Autism or Mercury and Autism. There just isn't any evidence for it. Studies have been done where they compared the rates of Autism in a vaccinated group and an unvaccinated group and both had the same occurrence rate.
And what on Earth do you mean that vaccinations cause "immunodeficiencies"? Vaccinations make the immune system stronger by exposing it to a "dead" or severely weakened virus. Once the body is exposed, it will then be able to produce the correct antibodies if it comes in contact with that virus again. Therefore, the immune system grows stronger.
probably was the vaccines but
MMR has been proven NOT to cause or enhance autism.
My grandfather was as, and i got mmr, but my bro don't have it and not mmr, and because as is males mostly they thought i got as because of mmr.... not true.
Vaccines, I support the theory. But the business side of it is apalling. The science used to test them, severely flawed. Long-term studies on the effects of vaccines on people? Never performed. They're not even tested against placebos, but other vaccines, tested against yet other vaccines. Thimerosal is just one of several additives which are fairly doubtful.
I still make sure I'm up to date on injections, but every time I feel like I'm choosing the lesser of two evils, when it shouldn't even be an issue. We've phased out Thimerosal in Canada years ago, I believe, but the vaccine industry needs a closer eye paid to it. This is our health we're talking about, it should have the utmost attention paid to it.
Actually, all vaccines except the flu vaccine are tested against placebos. The flu vaccine is not tested against a placebo because the flu virus mutates too rapidly to have an effective testing period. The flu vaccine is actually just the best guess of what the flu of the next year will be like. That's why the flu vaccine works well for some years and badly for others. The testing period for other vaccines is actually quite extensive, but rarely publicized. Usually the testing is carried out with the aid of the CDC. They usually select multiple areas in which to administer the vaccine as well as a placebo. People are not told whether they received the vaccine or the placebo, and in fact are not even told there will be a placebo. Then after a period of time, they compare infection results between those who received the real vaccine and those who didn't. By this system, they can determine which vaccines are effective. Afterwards they compare vaccines against one another to determine which one is the most effective. These methods work quite well.
And heck, using a hypothetical here, even if it was absolutely proven that vaccines cause autism, I'd WAY rather my future kids have autism than die of preventable diseases.
Absolutely correct. I myself do not see Autism or Asperger's as any sort of problem, especially when compared with Polio or one of the many other diseases we're vaccinated against.
Also, in the scienceblogs link posted, the question was raised: if it's mercury, then how come previous generations didn't experience an epidemic from use of things like merthiolate?
Also the claim that "if you line up 100 symptoms of autism and 100 symptoms of mercury poisoning, they'll be the same" is so way off base. Especially considering that I doubt you could even come up with 100 symptoms of autism. Certainly not that many in the DSM.
Here are the symptom according to Wikipedia:
Common symptoms include peripheral neuropathy (presenting as paresthesia or itching, burning or pain), skin discoloration (pink cheeks, fingertips and toes), edema (swelling), and desquamation (dead skin peels off in layers).
Because mercury blocks the degradation pathway of catecholamines, epinephrine excess causes hyperhidrosis (profuse sweating), tachycardia (persistently faster-than-normal heart beat), mercurial ptyalism (hypersalivation) and hypertension (high blood pressure). Mercury is thought to inactivate S-adenosyl-methionine, which is necessary for catecholamine catabolism by catechol-o-methyl transferase.
Affected children may show red cheeks and nose, erythematous lips (red lips), loss of hair, teeth, and nails, transient rashes, hypotonia (muscle weakness), and photophobia. Other symptoms may include kidney disfunction (e.g. Fanconi syndrome) or neuropsychiatric symptoms (emotional lability, memory impairment, insomnia).
Thus, the clinical presentation may resemble pheochromocytoma or Kawasaki disease.
An example of desquamation of the hand of a child with severe mercury poisoning acquired by handling elemental mercury is this photograph in Horowitz, et al (2002)
They just don't sound like anything to do with Autism.
What were childhood vaccines like, 60-75 years ago..?
I guess it may be a stupid question, but I'd like some sort of answer to this, please. Anyone who has studied this vaccine stuff a good bit, can you please give me your thoughts?
I'm not so good at doing my own research.
At the time Mumps, Measles, Rubella, and Smallpox vaccines were all commonly used. Anthrax vaccines also existed, but were not in common use. There may be others, but those are the only ones I can recall at the moment.
What were childhood vaccines like, 60-75 years ago..?
I guess it may be a stupid question, but I'd like some sort of answer to this, please. Anyone who has studied this vaccine stuff a good bit, can you please give me your thoughts?
I'm not so good at doing my own research.
At the time Mumps, Measles, Rubella, and Smallpox vaccines were all commonly used. Anthrax vaccines also existed, but were not in common use. There may be others, but those are the only ones I can recall at the moment.
Actually, I thought that 60 years ago (late 1940's) there weren't that many around at all. I'm pretty sure there was no Rubella vaccine then (it was only introduced into Australia as a school vaccination for girls in 1976 as I recall) - and both myself and my sister got the measles in the early 1970's. My sister got mumps (I didn't - lucky me!) during the same time period.
Smallpox however I think was one of the first ones developed. So was Polio if I'm right. Malaria would be another one from that period around WW2. And Tetanus as well.
These are all educated guesses by the way - from memory of what I was actually vaccinated for when I was a kid.
Rubella Vaccine was available in 1969.
Mumps Vaccine was available in 1948, but became common after 1950.
Measles Vaccine was available in 1963.
Tetanus Vaccine was available since the 1940s.
That is what I think. It all goes back to autistics not excreting the metals in the vaccines. That is what I think anyhow.
Some says a combination of genetics and vaccines.
so the idea is that genes let the vaccines make you autistic.
Metals are defined as elements that readily lose electrons during chemical reactions to form cations. This category is a very wide category and includes elements like Sodium, Iron, Uranium, Potassium, Calcium, Mercury, and Silver. Therefore, please state of which elements you speak.
Think it's mercury in the thimerosal preservative.
Thiomersal isn't even used anymore, as they have one now that works even better, and even when it was used, it wasn't much of a threat. There was so little of it inside a vaccine, and once it dissociates, it forms ethyl-Mercury, not methyl-Mercury, so it wasn't particularly toxic.