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No study has ever been able to link Autism with vaccinations and there doesn't seem to be any difference in the rate of occurrence between those who are vaccinated and those who are not. As people have said earlier in the thread, there is a correlation between vaccines and the onset of Autism due to the fact that most vaccinations occur at 18 months and that is around the time when Autism can be detected, but there is no causation between the two.

Parents should not stop vaccinating their children because if they do, they are putting their children at risk as well as the rest of society. Vaccinations are not only given to stop the death of an individual, but to stop the death of a large group of people. Vaccinations have stopped some of the worst diseases and they must continue to be administered.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/0...m.php#more

Here is an excellent blog post deconstructing the article on the Huffington Post.
And then the government has the gall to wonder at the rise in "syndromes and disorders"
My mother IMed this to me... and I think you should all read it...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...geId=57629
This article made me a bit angry... seriously the incompetence rate these people have is astounding in my opinion. They're sitting on their hands while children are being vaccinated with something that could cause autism and immunodeficiencies in children...  
and they're conceding... :-\

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But what about all the parents that say that their child developed or regressed into autism... AFTER getting vaccinated... and what I meant by immunodeficiencies is... some children seem to get sicker and may develop other health issues after ... I know that vaccines expose the body to a dead bacterium or a severly weakened virus... but what else are we exposing our children to? Do we really know for sure? .... that said... I wouldnt run the risk of not vaccinating any of my children...the risk would be greater in my opinion.

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Thank you very much EvilZakkie... you're right I am very new to all this... and you've given me much to think about. I've a question though... (well more than one but hehe) If the diagnosis for Autism has become more exact... then Autism has never been "on the rise" its always been there but undiagnosed? ... that would explain multiplex families... (dont know if its the correct term) um... they're families whith two or more children with Autism. There is soo much controvertial information and misinformation out there IDK what to think anymore...
My friend and mentor Edna told me I'd have more questions than answers and questions unanswered than anything else by my third year at college.
*Another quick question... I've read and been told that there is a connection between AS and ADHD... since they share some of the same characteristics... do you think that ADHD is just another form of Aspergers... um another manifestation of the spectrum? The more I research the more I come to think that it might be. (opinions?)

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I agree with Gareth... people are very jumpy when it comes to this... I guess we just have to research about ALL aspects... not just vaccines vs autism but the pointers Callista gave us
btw... Callista thanks very much ... I'll start researching all this (once I finish my 2 oral and 2 written reports for college) *sigh* I swear my professors wanna kill me with work and theories and research. haha

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Hey found the book I bought a year and a half ago on ADHD Autism connection...
Hope you all find it useful Smile
Title: The ADHD Autism Connection
Author(s): Diane M. Kennedy with Rebecca S Banks, Paul T. Elliott MD and Carl Daisy.

about the authors: Diane Kennedy is former state advirory board member for CHADD (children and adults with add) ADDA (national attention deficit disorder asociation) and ASA (autism society of america)
Paul Elliott MD has 20 years experience in the diagnosis of ADHD
Carl Daisy is former national board member of the ASA. he is a father of 3 (two of those within the spectrum)

I read it and found it very interesting... It helped me understand attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder and a bit of autism... first time I heard about Aspergers Syndrome.

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Arctoris Wrote:

Breeze Wrote:
That is what I think. It all goes back to autistics not excreting the metals in the vaccines. That is what I think anyhow.
Mercury

erkolos Wrote:
Some says a combination of genetics and vaccines.

so the idea is that genes let the vaccines make you autistic.


Metals are defined as elements that readily lose electrons during chemical reactions to form cations. This category is a very wide category and includes elements like Sodium, Iron, Uranium, Potassium, Calcium, Mercury, and Silver. Therefore, please state of which elements you speak.

Actually I think there are a few - I know some parents do hair tests and find out which ones are high. I'll have to find out from my parent group and get back to you. I never did the testing I just remember them telling me, if I get an answer from them I'll let you know exactly which ones.

Arctoris Wrote:

Breeze Wrote:
That is what I think. It all goes back to autistics not excreting the metals in the vaccines. That is what I think anyhow.

erkolos Wrote:
Some says a combination of genetics and vaccines.

so the idea is that genes let the vaccines make you autistic.


Metals are defined as elements that readily lose electrons during chemical reactions to form cations. This category is a very wide category and includes elements like Sodium, Iron, Uranium, Potassium, Calcium, Mercury, and Silver. Therefore, please state of which elements you speak.

Thanks for the link Erkolos. I'll send it off to the other parents. Unfortunately , I think a lot of professionals suggest stuff just get money from parents. Its sad but true.

erkolos Wrote:
According to http://www.chelationwatch.org hair-tests are not reliable.

I second that Smile

erkolos Wrote:
I find it actually quite nice that there's no tense atmosphere here even though we have different beliefs.

Just to clarify, I dont have a side I support 100%. Basically, I'm not sure if vaccines have anything to do with it or not - I dont think anyone can say they are 100% sure of anything.

Batman55 Wrote:
I'm acting up here because I'm a bit troubled by how many supporters--and pseudo-supporters--we have of the vaccine theory, on this site.  Before this thread, I had assumed most of you thought it was a bunch of hooey.  Boy, was I mistaken.

Ok, I got the list of metals. They are lead, cadmium, arsenic, antimony, tin, nickel, aluminum, thallium.

Arctoris Wrote:

Breeze Wrote:
That is what I think. It all goes back to autistics not excreting the metals in the vaccines. That is what I think anyhow.

erkolos Wrote:
Some says a combination of genetics and vaccines.

so the idea is that genes let the vaccines make you autistic.


Metals are defined as elements that readily lose electrons during chemical reactions to form cations. This category is a very wide category and includes elements like Sodium, Iron, Uranium, Potassium, Calcium, Mercury, and Silver. Therefore, please state of which elements you speak.

"Hope" of what? Its not going to change anything.
Smile I agree with you then Timelord
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