Aspies For Freedom

Thanks this is reallly interesting! I had not heard of this before.

PDD NOS is a Autistic Spectrum Disorder - The symptoms of this disorder are symptoms of Austism (from my understanding).

Maybe if you recognise you have an ASD without trying to box yourself into a defined category - too much.

lovely man!! Shy

matthe Wrote:

yay! its lucie! where you been? have missed you lately Smile

Lucie1 Wrote:

Maybe if you recognise you have an ASD without trying to box yourself into a defined category - too much.

i recognized that i had ASD a while ago. if McDD fits me better than AS does, isnt that a good thing? how am i "tring to box myself in"?

The wiring in the brain is complex - also I think it is hard to take behaviours in then fit them within a certain category - but I don't know enough and I don't have clear thoughts on this.

http://med.yale.edu/chldstdy/autism/pddnos.html

Do you meet the criteria for aspergers - as defined in the DSM IV?
Seems from reading from the above site PDD NOS is only diagnosed when someone is recognised as having autistic traits - without actually meeting the criteria for AS or autism.

Yes, I guess being able to recognise that you fit and meet the definition of certain group of criteria better than another is a good thing!! Smile

I really don't see the point in separating HFA/Asperger's from PDD-NOS.  Apart from speech delay or early regression in PDD-NOS, what's the alleged "cut off" between the two??

As I've said before, you cannot rely on stereotypes such as "early academic/intellectual development" or strong Math skills or high IQ to say it's Asperger's, rather than PDD-NOS.  Likewise, the absence of these things shouldn't be used to indicate PDD-NOS.

My overarching point is that atypical Asperger's, is still Asperger's.  There's no reason to think otherwise.

matthe Wrote:

that being said id like this thread to be more about McDD(an actual disorder), and less about PDD-NOS(a group of unidentified disorders)

I apologize, as I seemed to use the idea that McDD is much the same as PDD-NOS. I think I meant this: since McDD is a PDD, and on the autistic spectrum, I still don't buy the idea that it needs to be separate from AS/HFA. That's just my uninformed, probably naive opinion which you can discount.

Just out of curiousity matthe, on which points do you think you don't fit the criteria for Asperger's?

Some of it almost looks like Bipolar II, a little, because of the inconsistency of mood/activity in the regulation of affective state.

I also seem to have different days--AS predominant days, ADHD predominant days, OCD predominant days. But I thought a lot of Aspies have these unstable cycles, probably because of comorbid conditions.

matthe Wrote:

batman55 Wrote:

Just out of curiousity matthe, on which points do you think you don't fit the criteria for Asperger's?

here are most of the things i think would keep me from getting a DX.

poor motor skills- with the exception of poor handwriting, i have always had pretty good motor skills. i play guitar, drums, keys, etc. very well. im very good with my hands. dexterity is definetly one of my strong points.

daily routine- i enjoy diversity and spontaniousness in my daily life. i cant stand eating the same thing all the time for example. i love tring new things, and meeting new people. i like the work i do, a new location almost everyday. my daily routine is always different. i like it like that.

heightened sensitivity to light and loud noise- i work onstage at rock concerts and i love it. you couldnt find a noisier, or brighter place to be. i am completly comfortable sitting next a wall of subwoofers(140db), with all the lights and strobes going nuts, with 10k people looking in my direction. its actually very soothing to me. sometimes, if i can, i even take a nap onstage during a show.

stimming- im a chronic smoker, but i dont think that counts. i dont stimm and i dont recolect ever stimming.

monotonous speech or difficulty judging volume- my speaking patterns are normal and dynamic.

The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.- i do not think a doctor would consider my troubles to be "clinically significant impairment"

lack of desire to interact with peers- i desire interaction with my peers. probabaly more than they do Smile

most everything else about me is pretty typical of AS

Thanks for the explanation, interestingly enough I have some degree of difficulty with most of the areas you list above, with only a couple exceptions. I have severe difficulty in a couple of the areas. Perhaps I am Aspie, after all...

I know someone really lovely and very wise who has Mdd Matthe.

He posts on wrong planet.

I will be in touch later - at work at the moment.

matthe Wrote:

sweet! ive said it before and ill say it again, lucie1, youre awesome! Smile

you're such a nice guy

I think it's possible to have Asperger's without being good at maths and it's also possible to have the condition and still be good with your hands eg. there are autistic artists.

Mum said I had precocious manual dexterity, being able to undo the wingnuts on my pram at 8 months and being able to draw at two. But my gross motor skills weren't and still aren't so good and therefore I wasn't good at sports.

I have serious anxiety and some paranoia, but I note a lot of people here--even some stereotypical Aspies--also exhibit these traits.

I think a lot of my unusual traits for someone with AS come from ADHD... I tend to "notice everything" and that makes me overreactive to things, rather than underreactive.

I do constantly worry what others think about me, though. However--why would that be unusual for plain ol' Asperger's? It could be from theory of mind deficit.

You have to not meet criteria for classic autism to have MCDD, but I think you can have it if you're diagnosed AS.
By the way, a person can also have MCDD and not have enough autistic traits for PDD NOS. One study found only about 50% of MCDD children had PDD NOS.
One thing I'm wondering is if MCDD overlaps with pathological demand avoidance - which is the type of autism that fits me best. The defining feature of PDA is compulsive resisting of demands and being socially manipulative to resist demands, but associated features include mood swings, intense pretend which can be to the point of seeming to loose touch with reality, and a variety of other things which overlap with MCDD. I wrote an online survey (http://www.tigersurvey.com/survey.php?survey=6668) asking about PDA, autistic and MCDD traits to figure out how they interact. Those of you who self-dx as MCDD, would any of you fill it out?

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