Aspies For Freedom

Sorry I haven't got any answers.  It's kind of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1yFm-7Wow

Perhaps one of the NTs with an Aspie partner might have a suggestion.

The only advice I can give at the moment is to back off for a while and let him settle down. I'm one of the affectionate Aspies so don't understand the lack of affection thing but I also find it hard to cope with too much emotion at once. It's possible he has some worries with his studies.

I have an aspie friend who is probably more like "NTstudent's" boyfriend and he said if he went anywhere social, he easily got overloaded and needed anywhere from a few hours to several days to recover.

Hoping all will work out for the best, but I think this man would like more quiet time and could have been feeling somewhat "smothered".

Depends what the prescriptions are - if you're on Effexor, for instance, stopping suddenly is the worst possible thing you could do.  I did that, and I do not recommend it.  It damn near killed me.

Welcome to the forums, Nomore!

Not sure what kind of reaction you're going to get if you suggest chelation, though - there's  quite a feeling against it here.  I haven't researched it enough to have an opinion, but the impression I get is that it is sometimes used on people who DON'T have heavy metal toxicity, just because they happen to be autistic, and that can be very dangerous.

Curious, but why avoid B-vitamins if you're on antidepressants...?

If that's a no-no, perhaps it's a part of my health problems...

Regardless of anyones feelings about heavy metal removal and chelation, it is entirely unrelated to autism.

If anyone feels that they are suffering from the effects of heavy metal poisoning, they should see a registered toxicologist immediately. This is what chelation is for, and it is the only thing chelation is for.

No actual toxicology specialist would recommend chelation for autism. You'll probably find non-specialists that will do so, the same way that you will find non-specialist psychologists that know nothing about aspergers.

My two cents are up. *grins*

If deficiency of B vitamins can cause depression, why is it a bad idea to take B vitamins with antidepressants and therefore make sure you don't have B-vitamin deficiency..?

I don't understand why the overlap would be bad for someone on SSRIs.  I need to know *why* otherwise I just don't buy it.

I think he was talking about the other way around - if his depression was caused by vitamin B deficiency, then there was no reason to take antidepressants...

I'm still confused.  I guess my brain is not working properly tonight.

Well, unless the fillings were falling out, I think it would have been better to have left them alone. I don't think there's any real proof that metal fillings cause most people any problems. There is more of a trend now for porcelain and polymer plastic fillings too.

I can vouch for what Ethel said about going off Efexor. There have been some occasions when I couldn't get another prescription for several days after the last one ran out and I got very ill with severe headaches, giddiness, and shakiness. I'd never recommend going off those medications unless it was under a doctor's supervision and was done gradually.

If you are willing and prepared to overlook the male/female references, you could have a look at:
Gisela Slater-Walker, Chris Slater-Walker: An Asperger Marriage
ISBN: 1843100177
They've got a website, too.
Or:
Ashley Stanford: Asperger Syndrome and Long - Term Relationships:
ISBN: 1843107341

See if you can find a link to a study that hasn't been long disproved.

The medical community officially rejects chelation as a treatment for autism. This is true in multiple countries and via multiple organisations.

This one has definitely been disproven - there have been 14 studies so far showing no link between autism and vaccines. People here that vaccines and autism are related by celebrities, or by word of mouth - not from medical professionals.

I agree with Zakkie on this one, 100%.  Sorry, I think this heavy metal thing is mostly a load of crap.

Here's a few links - I usually find the wikipedia ones the best for autism discussions, as it's neutral ground, so you can be pretty sure the facts are correct (i.e. They'd be jumped on quickly if they weren't backed up).

On vaccines and mercury:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy

On chelation and autism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy#Autism

Other autism therapies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_therapies


Autism can be seen as genetic rather than environmental from twin studies, such as these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_autism

They generally show a much higher "concordance" of autism in identical twins than fraternal twins. In the 1995 British study, for example (the only one to examine the broader spectrum, rather than classically defined autism), it showed a 60% concordence in identical twins for Kanners autism (vs 0% concordence in fraternal twins), and a 92% concordence with the broader autistic spectrum (as opposed to 10% concordence in fraternal twins).

This shows pretty conclusively that autism is inheritable, rather than environmental.


As far as autistic people having trouble excreting toxins, I don't know that it's been studied - I did some quick google searches, and read through the wikipedia entries for "toxins" & "heavy metals", and neither mentions autism at all. It's been disproven for Thiomersal, but I can't find anything on other heavy metals.


Hope that helps...

I also think it is a load of rubbish and that it is yet another straw to be grasped at by desperate people and so that quacks can make yet more money out of them.

One more (female/female):
Prince-Hughes, Dawn: Songs of the Gorilla Nation
ISBN: 1400082153