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Hi i am glad to say that with the help of Timothy Walton.
we plan to set up NTspeaks.org again.

i plan to change it a bit though...
more info about it later.

ocampo Wrote:
Good good Smile


I agree!!

oh and


WELCOME BACK OCAMPO AND WELL DONE FO SOCKING IT TO THOSE B****RDS!!!!

lol Tongue Big Grin Smile Cool

abscout Wrote:
Hi i am glad to say that with the help of Timothy Walton.
we plan to set up NTspeaks.org again.

i plan to change it a bit though...
more info about it later.


yeah! dont let 'em beat you!

Well done abscout!

For
ABSCOUT
&
OCAMPO

A round of applause!


Go get 'em girls!

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

For
ABSCOUT
&
OCAMPO

A round of applause!


Go get 'em girls!


And speaking of welcome backs...

WELCOME
BACK
TIG!


*grins*


Does this mean you've got internet up and working now?
BRILLIANT!
Welcome back, Abscout Smile

ocampo Wrote:

flardox Wrote:
WELCOME BACK OCAMPO AND WELL DONE FO SOCKING IT TO THOSE B****RDS!!!!


Thank you :blush: but I'm always fighting with something in bloody real life - right now I'm having to fight with an ex employer that sacked me when I complained about someone bullying me at work... its gone to court now :'( why can't anything be bloody easy lol


well done ocampo!!

but I did mean abscout lol I got the wrong name but It doesn't matter!

I suppose I will try again   |I

WELCOME BACK ABSCOUT AND WELL DONE FOR SOCKING IT TO THOSE B*****RDS!!!

congrats! ^^

MomofHrick Wrote:
I also think it is foolish to parody the very people you are trying to  impress with your arguments/sway to your position and way of thinking. Parody begets defensiveness not receptiveness to new ideas.  One need only visit the threads related to it on Autism Speaks to see the negative impact of it.


I think recent events have proved differently.

For one thing, NT Speaks is quite obviously a parody of Autism Speaks, not of NT's - the claims it makes are deliberately ridiculous.

For another, humour sites gain attention in ways that information sites cannot - and in rights causes, this inevitably means parody and satire.

The thing to remember about the threads on Autism Speaks is that the people involved would say the same things regardless of the "tone" of the site - they say the things they do because they disagree with the premise (Autism Speaks = negative/ridiculous).


Just one final point that's been bugging me for a while - very few of the things you refer to as "NT points of view" actually are. In this one in particular, I've heard autistics express the same sentiment as above, and I've heard NT's that love the site.

It's the same sort of gut reaction I get when someone claims to express the "autistic point of view". People are individuals, and no-one can claim to represent an entire neurotype.

About the only time the phrase might be relevant is when someone is asking a "Why do NT's do X?" style question - in that case, stating that you're NT is very relevant. Otherwise, you're solely representing yourself.

MomofHrick Wrote:
Sorry about that. After clipping the quote  I forgot to add the comment.


Comment is:  Fair enough criticism.


No probs. I should add that you quite often have good points as well, which is why I haven't mentioned it for so long...

MomofHrick Wrote:
I think this is a fair observation as well. But I still hold on my position in suggesting it is difficult to convince someone of something when you are simultaneously offending them. I'm betting those NT's who liked the site it were already positionally firmly on your side?


That's true too - I think it's difficult to find people that don't have an opinion on autism, but are still interested in talking about it. It would be interesting to talk to a random net wanderer after they have just seen the site, but I don't know how we'd find one.

Just to reiterate, the site quite obviously parodies Autism Speaks, not NT's - the claims it makes about NT's are quite obvious deliberate jokes on medicalising autistic traits (e.g. the tragedy of NT children not stimming, references to "oven mothers", etc).

I should also point out that Amandas video gets about the same amount of negativity on the site, if not more so...

hi people im having a bit of a delay due to my old host refusing to transfer the domain
I thought I heard something about StrictNonConformist was going to do something in this vein, to the point of already having the domain name reserved.  Anybody heard anything?
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